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10,000 word long-take I wrote on the history of female warriors, North European human Sacrifice rituals, Girardian mimetic selection, and the incompatibility of the west's current conceptions of Freedom and women's liberation.
What occured in the forests of Germany and on the Eurasian steppe for 1000s of years was one of the most extreme experiments in selective breeding and selective killing practised anywhere on earth. The Aztec and Maya were the only ones with a ritual breeding/killing program so extreme
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I do enjoy that you write in the Moldbuggian tradition of essentially making things up while gesturing at the suggestion of evidence, spuriously. I do it too, so I feel a kind of appreciation for your writing style.
Do women from persecuted middle eastern tribes have a reputation for being ugly? I'm not just talking Jews who have obviously been through a particularly weird diasporic selection process, but rather those other small minorities that have hung around in the region for thousands of years. I think breeding beautiful people is actually pretty hard, much harder than breeding smarter people. Perfect features exaggerated just a little too much become very quickly grotesque. Some unions produce beautiful sons and ugly daughters, or vice versa, often precisely because features that work for one sex don't for the other. Then consider the different status red headed men versus red headed women have in contemporary discourse on attractiveness, for example.
I was under the impression that the vast majority of suicides of women in Berlin and East Germany were by women who had been raped, many of them pregnant. I suppose the historical record is necessarily spotty.
There is actually some additional evidence you left out. 50% of female S&P 500 CEOs are blonde; just 2% of male ones are, zero overrepresentation. Obviously most are bottle blonde; the white ethnics who settled the United States from the 1840s onward were largely not from people with high prevalence of natural blonde hair, except for some Scandinavians. But still, the yearning for blondeness is eternal.
You see it in Latin America especially, where an ugly blonde, blue-eyed girl from Southern Brazil or Europe can date multiple classes upward, while objectively much more beautiful brunettes (even pale ones!) cannot. This is not wholly explained, in my opinion, by the pure fetishism for nordic features that one sees in the Middle East, in Asia and so on. It's more primal. In my experience, limiting for comparison's sake to europeans of the same ethnic group, blonde women are friendlier to other women and tougher on men than brunettes. They also seem to take more risks.
There appears to be little understanding of the relationship between natural hair color and temperament; I googled the usual autistic genetics forums and it doesn't appear to be a popular topic there either. My mother and sister both have natural blonde hair and blue eyes, as I understand it this was very rare in Polish and Russian Jews but more common in German and Balkan ones. There's actually a fascinating section of the 1906 Jewish Encyclopedia which contains a detailed survey and discussion of the hair and eye colors of various European Jewish populations, their relations to head shape and head size and so on. But they both have quite a different temperament to me or my brother. It's an interesting discussion, they seem more headstrong.
For those who stayed within the tribe, I would say yes. A woman who looks too good would be easily able to catch the eye of any powerful man, and thus would likely use that to their advantage by marrying into the dominant tribes. A pretty Palestinian girl can get a fairly nice lifestyle upgrade by marrying into an Israeli family. And in the more distant past Jews in Roman Palestinia could do well by seducing a Roman and being part of a fairly rich Roman household rather than marrying a poor Jewish boy.
Generally in insular tribal communities the prettiest women don't marry out, they're just more likely to marry whoever the highest status men within the tribe at that time are. It's not like modern Copts send their prettiest women to marry Muslims even though they're still an arguably-sometimes-disfavored minority in Egypt today (it's complicated, I suppose). You never saw the prettiest black women marry white men in the US (if anything the most beautiful black women have always tended to have a preference for high-status black men). Asians date out at higher rates, but I'm skeptical that beautiful Asian women are more likely to have a white husband than their less attractive peers. It's an interesting topic.
Are mail-order-brides selected for being prettier than average in their home countries?
From what I've seen, they aren't. Sugar babies are, but most mail-order brides I've seen were plain Janes marrying plain Joes of the same relative status.
My (very limited) experience is the opposite. I know two, now older, Filipina mail order brides, one of whom I knew when she first came over here. She was quite pretty, tall, thin, and is, probably not insignificantly, either half or quarter Spanish (I forget which). She has a number of other female relatives who became mail order brides, and I’m guessing they were probably similarly attractive. I don’t know what my other mail order bride acquaintance looked like when she was young, but her daughters are both attractive, if a bit short, so I’m guessing she was good-looking when young as well.
I think this ties into the distinction @orthoxerox touches on between mail-order brides and sugar babies, or something like it. For example, is Melania a 'mail order bride'? In a way, she's a Slavic woman from a poor country who married an old fat American for (we presume) financial reasons. But, on the other hand, Trump was a billionaire and could easily have a found a pretty American 25 years younger to marry, as many of his peers did and do. At the same time, one could just as easily imagine Melania marrying some super-rich Slovenian. Marrying a billionaire is hypergamous for someone of any nationality. The mail order bride phenomenon distinctly captures 'average' Western men marrying women from much poorer countries. Similarly, if a handsome and successful Western guy who could date pretty women of his background and class happens to marry a pretty Filipina he meets online, is this a mail order bride scenario? Again, not really, I'd say.
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Are they? My extensive 90 Day Fiancé viewership doesn’t suggest so.
Yeah, that’s what I’m asking, I genuinely don’t know. Every mail order bride I’ve met in person has been old enough that she’s not turning heads anymore even if she was when she walked down the aisle.
I have no doubt mail order bride sites advertise ‘most beautiful women of Ukraine’ or whatever, it’d be kind of dumb not to. But are Ukrainian women who become mail order brides on average more attractive than ones who stay home? No doubt this is complicated substantially by heavy use of makeup in photographs taken for the obvious data sources(that is, the mail order bride sites themselves).
This seems like an important datapoint to check on your argument with Maiqthetrue.
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