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Culture War Roundup for the week of March 25, 2024

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If you've ever come across someone on the Effective Altruism forum or ACX comments section who cares a lot about wild animal/insect welfare, you might have wondered if they'd thought things through.

Well, you'd be right.

Here we have the story of a bright-eyed young effective altruist who spent the better part of a year permitting a breeding colony of carpet moths to live in her apartment because she was concerned about the ethical implications of exterminating them.

I'll be honest. My first reaction was of sneering contempt. Animal welfare is IMO the most counterproductive idea that gets serious traction in rationalist spaces, so there is a good bit of schadenfreude from seeing, "I never thought the bugs would eat MY utility," out in the wild.

Still, I don't know anything about this person other than that she lives in a London flat and works for an EA organization (80,000 hours). I am reminded of that XKCD where even the most obvious facts are learned by someone for the first time thousands of times a day. Maybe Europe really is a commieblock hellscape where man lives entirely divorced from nature, where supposedly well-informed people can enter their late 20s without an intuitive understanding of the exponential growth of pest biomass. I remember well the time as a wee lad I saw an entire summer's growth of backyard tomato plants devoured in a week by 2 or 3 hornworms. Not everyone grows up with such a visceral demonstration of what civilization is up against.

Maybe these people really do need to touch grass.

I’m an animal rights activist but only for highly advanced lifeforms. Certain kinds of bird, orangutan, killer whale, octopus, elephant. No chimpanzees as I find them vulgar. I still eat octopus but it increasingly makes me feel bad and I justify it because they’re a cannibalistic species, so I’m only doing what they do to each other.

No chimpanzees as I find them vulgar.

This is so incredibly funny to me, but you're indisputably correct, chimpanzees are indeed rather vulgar.

I suppose orcas made it and dolphins didn't because the latter are rapist, onanist necrophiliacs who happen to have great PR?