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Gaashk
1hr ago
Yeah, multiple people going no contact is very weird, even by friend in a cult standards. Perhaps they tried declaring "this seems like a cult," and everyone's feelings were hurt or something?
gattsuru
1hr ago
Medicare estimates a national average compensation rate around 7.5k USD at hospital facilities (you may have to click the down arrow for "more cost information"). Most insurance companies (have to, ACA) cover it for gender care, but how that works out with deductibles is a treatise on its own.
I'm ... skeptical about the Milgram theory in general, and for this behavior in specific, but even presuming that they're correct and generally believing the Beware Trivial Inconveniences theory, I'd be really worried if a plane ticket and a couple weeks in an Extended Stay Express were enough of a trivial inconvenience, especially compared to everything else involved.
No_one
1hr ago
The Left has individuals with TV, radio, or podcasts, but they really don’t support each other. Raechel Maddow doesn’t tell the same story as Ezra Klein who doesn’t tell the same story as Thom Hartmann.
No? I recall everyone and their mother calling J.D.Vance, the seemingly most normal guy in politics, ever, weird. There is clear coordination. Back during Trump's first campaign, there was a minor scandal that pretty much every major media sent a high ranking guy to some Clinton event to coordinate campaign messaging.
Also, the TV and newspapers pretty much belongs to the democrats. Not that anyone except those who await death pays attention to legacy media (, but the left has something like 75% of the TV and 90% of the paper market, at least.
TIRM
1hr ago
The companies I worked for, from age 16 until now, all had a lot of capital tied up in their facilities. It would makes no sense for such company to be created and destroyed easily given the large startup investment justified only by potential long term profit. I've been in companies that weren't profitable for years after their creation. They ultimately became profitable, but it was a long slog to get there. Liquidating their assets would mean some new company getting to start from scratch.
George_E_Hale
insufferable blowhard
1hr ago
I only included this because it is the most common scenario. A friend seems to be drinking too much? Watch him waste away and maybe mention it to a 3rd party, but don't intervene. Another friend has a bad boyfriend? It's her life, watch it unfold and pick up the pieces later, maybe. Online, people love doling out life wisdom. IRL, people keep quiet generally. I agree with you, though.
The_Nybbler
In the game of roller derby, women aren't just the opposing team; they're the ball.
1hr ago
3) What now? The left has CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC, NPR, the New York Times, the Washington Post, the Los Angeles Times, etc. You know, the "mainstream media".
wayfarer
1hr ago
I have gotten very good at amusing myself over the internet
have you tried combating this? Leechblock? /etc/hosts ? Some other kind of filter or commitment device?
wayfarer
1hr ago
I feel like I suck at programming
I would investigate are you suffering from impostor syndrome or actually sucking at it.
Many real good programmers deservedly earning piles of money described themself as being absolutely terrible at it.
erwgv3g34
2hr ago
Why is this all pony literature?
The question is not why; the question is, why not?
But if you absolutely need a non-pony option, try The Number by NothingnessAbove.
VoxelVexillologist
Multidimensional Radical Centrist
2hr ago
I've heard lots of accounts of regular medical (and dental) patients crossing the border to Mexico (and maybe Canada) for procedures because it's much cheaper there and the quality is equal or at least close enough. A few horror stories too, though. Usually not too distant travel, though.
I think cancer patients travel pretty regularly for specialist treatment too.
George_E_Hale
insufferable blowhard
2hr ago
Do you think that's going to change? Stress measures (increased heart rate etc.) don't always indicate anything bad. We need that kind of thing to get through the day sometimes, unless it's debilitating. And I don't imagine things like cortisol, prolactin, etc. are measured.
But this doesn't address your question, sorry.
Tree
2hr ago
I’m baffled by this comment and responses. What is supposed to be happening? What are ‘culty vibes’ and “creepy emotional exercise stuff “? Is it like a jim jones cult, or just an MLM, which mormons are known to have predilections for? Are hugs suspicious? I know some hippies, they always hug me and call me brother, imo it’s a nice greeting for nice people. But I will defer to the wisdom of americans, who have been spotting all kinds of cults since they came off the boat.
Jiro
2hr ago
That's low IQ by mistake theory. By conflict theory their IQ is fine, but they're being disingenuous in a way that doesn't make sense.
wayfarer
2hr ago
I thought of a third: Do nothing, thanks for catching up, guess you'll soon go radio silent on me as you become fully indoctrinated. Lose your friend to whatever she ends up becoming (a version of this will happen no matter what you do.) Read about it later. You can't save everyone.
I would at least try to tell them what you see here. Do not expect it to work, maybe do not followup, be prepared for bad response. Do not try to rescue them. But at least let them know how it looks from outside. (at least I would be quite irritated if everyone would recognize that I am getting caught by cult and noone would tell me what they noticed)
the way both my friend and the afore-mentioned teen hugged me when we parted at the train station last night was disturbingly intense for goodbye hugs (also I have known the younger one like 24h at this moment).
this one does not seem too suspicious to me? unless there is something extra that you omitted?
and some got very upset and went no-contact.
If multiple people went no-contact over it that seems very strong indicator of something being really wrong (either with workshop or general population, but I would bet on workshop).
And based on further description it sounds very cultish.
But I have no idea whether my expected reaction would it be helpful AT ALL.
If I would be in this situation I would probably stand up, tell them something along "it seems to be a cult and, you should rethink situation and maybe escape before it is too late" and leave. Maybe something less aggressive would be better, maybe not directed to all. But I would let people know that it seems abnormal to you, maybe they will also recognize it? Or give them signal that they are not in fact crazy that it seems weird.
I would definitely would not try to become deeper involved or rescue people, unless it was some extremely close friend/family (and even there involvement seems of dubious use).
VoxelVexillologist
Multidimensional Radical Centrist
2hr ago
"what is a woman?"
I will (weakly) defend her non-response on the basis that SCOTUS are the constitutional Platonic philosopher kings, to whom this sort of seems-trivial-but-actually-has-subtlety question like "is the ACA fine for not having insurance a tax?" (whether or not you agree on the depth of this particular question I think the category still stands), and that generally justices are discouraged from discussing potential cases during confirmation hearings.
That said, I quite likely disagree with her answer to the question regardless.
Gaashk
2hr ago
I didn't like applying for jobs at all in my early twenties, because they would always ask why I was the best candidate, and I would always feel stupid about how fake I was being and give up. So I put out some super lame applications, until someone in middle of nowhere Alaska called me and talked me into working there, and it was actually really interesting, even though it was not very pretty and -60 and I wasn't really teaching the kids all that well, and I spent hundreds of hours reading Edgar Rice Boroughs novels (I would not necessarily recommend Alaska, specifically, to someone prone to depression though).
Especially if you're American, a young man who doesn't necessarily want a family or retirement can just go do something that's interesting and low pay somewhere random for a few years. Low level English teacher abroad, Americorps, Peace Corps, pineapples, contractor for a military base; whatever sounds slightly interesting.
4bpp
After January 20th, all orange flairs are considered political
2hr ago
In what way is this integrity? If this is actually what is going on, it's more like motte ("abortion is murder, I want to stop murder") and bailey ("nothing to force hoes to become housewives like saddling them with a baby").
ToaKraka
Dislikes you
2hr ago
You seem to imply in your first comment ("I have a suicide attempt from nearly a decade ago on my record"; "I tend to forget what abject misery feels like until I feel it again. If it's genetic, I don't want my kids to feel it") that you suffer from depression. As a person who contracted depression after around five and a half years of employment, I can say that my life ABSOLUTELY REVOLVES AROUND the promise of retirement and unlimited relaxation (just a year and a half away!!!), and "living a relatively normal life, passion be damned, just doing whatever I can tolerate" is impossible while my relaxation time is crippled by working.
Do the calculation! You may be pleasantly surprised at how quickly your retirement date is approaching.
FCfromSSC
Nuclear levels of sour
2hr ago
If you’re a regular straight person, everything is basically designed for you.
I'm one of the many, many guys who grew up with the bedrock knowledge that I should never display romantic interest in a member of the opposite sex, for fear of creeping them out.
I can entirely believe that on balance, your analysis here is more or less accurate. I'm pretty sure Trans people do in fact have it significantly harder than straight men, and certainly much harder than straight women. But straight men have it pretty hard, and a lot of them have achieved common knowledge that approximately no one is interested in helping or even sympathizing with them in any way. The bitterness this produces is severe, and mixes poorly with claims that "everything is designed for them".
George_E_Hale
insufferable blowhard
2hr ago
A relative term, no doubt. In what I know of present company, I'm normie. Then again I'm a semi regular poster, so there's that.
MaiqTheTrue
Renrijra Krin
2hr ago
I mean im not sure that works. I’m sure that you’re not going to literally disappear everyone who went to a protest where 50501 is present, however the data gleaned from such events would be extremely useful to bad actors if they wanted to make things interesting.
First, running the list and public profiles of attendees is a treasure trove of information that can be weaponized against them. For example, I can look for common elements in those profiles. Perhaps an interest in art, a type of music, favorite TV shows, etc. I can then use that data to find other people with that profile who are not yet protesting but might. I can perhaps check these names against other databases. Any unpaid parking tickets? Anyone looking for a job I can flag in a background check? I don’t need to go after all of them or even most of them. I can probably get better bang for the buck by targeting random people who are perhaps really well connected on social media. If I arrest 50, but they post about the experience online, and those posts, because of the number of followers goes fairly viral, I can probably discourage people from protesting without having to really waste time and energy trying to brute force the thing.
The beauty of AI in this case is that I can use big data to control people in ways that are pretty invisible until they punish rule breakers. If I can make it hard to get an apartment, or a job, or for you or you kids to get into a good college, I don’t need to body slam you and throw you in jail, I can just reward the good ones with prestige and easier life while punishing the bad by withholding privileges. If protesting means that the only jobs you can get are at Wendy’s, I don’t even need to make it illegal. People won’t do it because they don’t want to get stuck working at Wendy’s and living with cockroaches in a squatter apartment with 6 roommates.
sadly, this seems sole sane answer to that (based on description)
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