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I sometimes read from the new comments tab, since reading from the roundup page means I miss interesting comments nested a few posts down. For the same reason, I didn’t realise it was a necro.
For better or worse I’ve got bored of most of my old time-wasting pages but it does mean that I tend to refresh the Motte when I get that ‘tab-out’ itch. If you can suggest alternatives I’m open :)
hydroacetylene
9m ago
The actual lyrics of the song are 'I still can't see my children, niggers see my twitter but they don't see how I be feeling, so I became a nazi yay bitch I'm the villain, nigger heil Hitler, they don't understand the things I say on twitter nigger heil Hitler nigger heil Hitler they don't understand the things I say on twitter all my niggers nazis nigger heil Hitler'. This is not political commentary it's lashing out. He's still framing the nazis as villains.
I agree that the WWII taboo is fading. I don't think a mentally ill black man identifying with Hitler in an act of rebellion is the sign thereof.
Pigeon
coo coo
13m ago
Many of these also vaguely comport to similar benefits non-Han have vis a vis the Han Chinese in the PRC, yet I think most of us would hesitate to label the PRC as being anti-Han.
(This is despite probably more worthy historical reasons to call the PRC “anti-Han”, actually, starting with the targeting of the Four Olds during the cultural revolution.)
Dean
Flairless
22m ago
I'm confused.
I'm partly confused why no one necrosed a two-month-dead threat for a response. But I'm even more confused how you knew/noticed/responded within the hour for a post that didn't reference you.
Not offended / upset or anything. Just confused.
anti_dan
28m ago
I mean, why else besides being one of those or married being the reason for a name change strikes me as silly
Wave_Existence
33m ago
WW2 mythos
WWII's monolithic cultural universality is definitely waning as we approach its centennial anniversary, but i don't think kanye's tweets are some sort of canary for us to look to for signs of danger.
The guy, and i kinda feel bad for him even though he only has a few songs i really liked, seems to have actually lost his damn mind. People speculate as to the cause of this, was it pete davidsons giant schlong, was it his mom's death, was it his divorce that broke his tenuous grasp on reality? Nah. the guy has been doing rich people levels of the wrong drugs, hes been talking a lot about inhaling nitrous. Bro has prettymuch all the symptoms of inhalant induced brain damage and his cultural relevance will quickly fade for the normies as he transforms in real time from an avant garde rapper to a terry davis-esque lolcow insane guy yelling schizo word salad about nazi's and jesus and sucking dicks.
anon_
34m ago
Bending over and doing the wrong thing because it's “preferable” to me...
It's not wrong in any way to do more than the absolute bare minimum in a given interaction. It is fully permitted (it's even morally exemplary) in most cases to do more than what you are strictly required.
For example, an individual might go to the DMV with 4 pieces of identification rather than the legally-required 3 simply to ensure a smooth process (and to keep the line moving). This is likewise not in any way wrong.
Suing the DMV would not be "strictly required", either, but if I were to win* it would "mak[e] everything [more] straightforwards" for the next guy who would then only have to fill out an Alabama DS-60 clone instead of waiting for a court order to get approved — so by your own logic, that seems like the right thing to do?
First off, I doubt that. The DMV would likely just grant your request which would moot the case since you had already received all the possible relief that you were asking for. So the next guy would be in exactly the same position.
Legal maneuvering aside, it's hardly the thing to stand on unless you're angling for teenaged petulance. It's unbecoming. Be better.
Exotic_cetacean
Aesthetics over ethics
55m ago
Speaking of the legal force. Maybe you will have better luck on YouTube, or failing that just use VPN.
Blueberry
1hr ago
“This Post from @kanyewest has been withheld in Germany, France, Poland based on local law(s). Learn more”
Amadan
I will be here longer than you
1hr ago
To be perfectly honest, while @HereAndGone is being a bit snide, his characterization is really not far off from what Takacs actually said at the time: he/er really did have a meltdown about feeling unsafe over being referred to as "he."
HereAndGone
1hr ago
Guy might well have been ambitious, and I'm more "this is dumb" than truly outraged, but comparing "guy only pretended to be devout in order to get top job, now is pissed he was passed over and thinks he might as well have been a sinner because he never genuinely believed at all in the first place" to "guy makes joke that is obviously meant to be a joke about the Wars of Religion", is not comparing similar levels.
Crowstep
1hr ago
Bor, if I lose my faith, I lose it completely. If I don't believe in God, Jesus, or the rest of it, there's no "well there's some buncha guys who went 'yes we agree with you that your former church was completely wrong about 90% of everything, or maybe 100% if we're one of the set that denies they were ever Christian at all in the first place, but this is the 10% we do agree is True and that you must and should believe', I guess I can switch to them" that will cajole me over to them. Because they didn't stumble across the True Original Gospels in a cave and read them for the first time, they broke away from the body which had handed on to them these things and which shaped them and which made the water in which they swam Christian.
If I become convinced "the entity that introduced the Gospel to me is all fake", why will I believe the "encounter with Jesus" is anything more than conditioning, brainwashing, self-deception, and some kind of cultural contamination where I convinced myself I had the 'burning in the bosom' to prove it all true? I'm not basing my faith on "well I like Gothic chasubles", dude. I'm basing it on "this is a truth-telling thing". If I don't believe it's truth-telling, I don't believe any shard of the wreckage is true. Why should I trust my warm fuzzy feelings about Jesus, when I can as easily find it in myself to have warm fuzzy feelings about Shiva or Buddha? Plenty of believers in those faiths have a personal relationship with the god, it's called bhakti. I am very fond of both Sun Wukong and Hanuman, that fondness has not convinced me to become a Daoist or Hindu.
HereAndGone
1hr ago
Do you actually sympathize with the plight of a person who wants to change their name, but isn't eligible or can't be bothered to file for a $50 name change?
If they can't be bothered, why should I be bothered to address them by their new cool name? OP seems (and apologies if I'm misrepresenting them) to be saying "why can't I just get a driver's licence in my new name of Biggus Dickus, the Alabama law says a common law name is good enough, the mean ol' DMV wants a legal piece of ID stating this is my name and that's infringing on my freedoms".
Well yesterday I read a news report about a woman who faked her own death, claimed to be her own sister in order to do so, and did all this name changing stunt in order to avoid going to court over fraud charges. If this specimen could just rock up to the local tax office and go "Hi, my name which I am commonly known by is Susie Susan, new licence I can use as legal ID please", you think she'd avoid doing that?
The hard cases are "the people who want to change their name but aren't eligible", the reality is "some sex offender or fraudster" attempting to have multiple IDs in multiple names.
You don't have to argue practicality to me. I already did it, for all the reasons you name. I was only elaborating in reply to this comment asking why I said that what I did is “cowardly”.
Bending over and doing the wrong thing because it's “preferable” to me...
“Regardless of what the other decides, each prisoner gets a higher reward by betraying the other (‘defecting’).”
–https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoner%27s_dilemma
...doesn't magically make it the right thing.
Most people do not do the bare minimum of things that they are strictly required to do but the things that makes everything the most straightforwards
Suing the DMV would not be "strictly required", either, but if I were to win* it would "mak[e] everything [more] straightforwards" for the next guy who would then only have to fill out an Alabama DS-60 clone instead of waiting for a court order to get approved — so by your own logic, that seems like the right thing to do?
*As a boring tactical matter, I probably wouldn't anyway; I don't have any history of crimes involving moral turpitude, I do have a reasonably well-paying job, and I think my county offers hardship fee waivers for the court order even if I were bereft, so I'd be a pretty poor candidate plaintiff due to the question of standing... but that's just contingent.
Corvos
1hr ago
The Chinese have managed it fine, in practice. Things the CCP don’t want to work don’t work, and neither do most VPNs. I’m sure it’s possible to bypass the firewall but I think it would be very difficult to do in an untraceable way.
George_E_Hale
insufferable blowhard
1hr ago
There was a time just about when Burning Crusade came out that I played WoW. My god that game kept me out of trouble (albeit my soon-to-be wife despised that I played it.) I loved it. It's the only game I ever really got into, and I was well into my 30s at the time. I thought about doing the WoW Classic when it was released but I simply don't have the time now, as a husband/dad.
George_E_Hale
insufferable blowhard
1hr ago
People are assholes. Also I haven't heard / seen the word "Jewess" in a long time.
Will it be “post-modern corrosion” or will it be time? Genghis Khan Is believed to (1) have caused the deaths of enough people to slightly alter climate, and (2) have been the most-prolific rapist of which we are aware. And, currently, there are a couple of restaurant chains named after him here in America.
I once saw an inflatable, bounce-house type slide made to look like the Titanic. Kids would slide down the tilted deck, onto a landing area made to look like the sea. Fifteen hundred people died in the actual tragedy.
There is typically a loosening of taboo once knowledge of horrible events passes out of living memory. Are those around WW2 going to be different?
(West is certainly, dementedly ahead of the curve, here.)
DiscourseMagnus
2hr ago
I personally fear this process but for a very different reason: I think the peacekeeping effect attributed to MAD was actually mostly on the WW2 mythos. The real reason we haven't had such a terrible war since WW2 is that we have WW2 in living cultural memory, and now it's exiting living cultural memory.
2rafa
2hr ago
Ye’s team says the song will be featured on his upcoming album “Cuck” (Internet slang for “cuckold,” a term for a husband whose wife is unfaithful), which also includes tracks titled “Gas Chambers,” “WW3,” and “Hitler Ye and Jesus.” The album art depicts two figures wearing hooded Ku Klux Klan-like robes in different colors, while the art for the “Heil Hitler” song shows a swastika-like doodle.
This shortly after he essentially came out (whispers of various gay relationships have been gossip fodder for years, the most widespread rumor involving the late Virgil Abloh, the fashion designer). I do feel bad for him, I don’t think going through this kind of thing in public is dignified.
Will it change the narrative? I think the narrative has already been changing for at least ten years. Given AI / AGI / ASI, and its effect on the economy, culture and politics, I think it’s impossible to say what will happen even ten years from now.
No_one
2hr ago
You can't 'partition the internet'. Even the Chinese haven't tried. Definitely not with Starlink.
2rafa
2hr ago
I received the following DM from a new user with no posts or comments this week:
Oh wow, a Jewess is against White identitarians? What a surprise! If propagating an (idea) meant I would be dead within a year, I would be against the (idea) too. I genuinely thank your people for nuclear weapons, but it's time for you to bow out. Permanently.
I occasionally (like twice a year) get random DMs from people with no real posting history, but they’re usually polite enough.
This one was pretty funny, bearing a certain resemblance to the navy seal copypasta. I think it was in reference to a comment in which I implied that the woman who called that child the n word was being rude.
I appreciate the gratitude for the nuclear weapons, though. I’ll pass that on.
Exotic_cetacean
Aesthetics over ethics
2hr ago
Ye, better known as Kanye West has released a song titled "Heil Hitler"
I have to admit, it's quite catchy, especially the unlikely refrain "nigger, Heil Hitler", which definitely has an intriguing ring to it.
Whether Kanye is a truly great artist or not, he's nothing if not a skilled craftsman.
I've long since lost the ability to treat anything on the internet seriously and my reaction was limited to squeezing my eyes shut and suppressing a chuckle, but I suspect that the wider audience is also outraged only in a performative, inertial way. I doubt it will end up making any real impact on anything and waves in the social media will likely fizzle out in no more than a few weeks.
I wonder if we're seeing the first signs of postmodern corrosion eating away at the last grand unifying narrative of our age: WW2 mythos, with Adolf Hitler at its center not as mere historical figure, but as the archetypal villain and the secular devil. In many countries the taboo is backed by legal force, but legislation doesn't truly govern things of this nature. The law may end up hollowed out and irrelevant long before someone cares to remove it from the books
Maybe I will live to tell my incredulous grandkids about how we were all expected to perceive one specific 20th century dictator through a prism of quasi-superstitious dread.
Should this really happen, good riddance. Though on the other hand, we might end up remembering having this kind of culture spanning, unifying narrative as kind of comfy compared to total balkanization
I am not aware of any of these three things being true.
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