ArjinFerman
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He is indeed my long lost, blackpilled, twin brother.
ArjinFerman
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9d ago
The issue being dismissed for as long as I was alive might have something to do with it. Also the whole point of MAGA is that it's not basic "muh fiscal conservatism".
ArjinFerman
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9d ago
You're approaching this from an angle where propaganda is something I don't think it is.
Maybe. I think it's media created with the purpose of spreading and inculcating ideas and specific types of thinking, is that not what it is? What do you think it is?
Joe Rogan wasn't 'built'. It was an accidental fire that happened to be able to exist since it spawned from spheres that were very much not intellectual and not mainstream.
His podcast is very much a result of deliberate human action, rather than a random accident. None of his story that you bring up contradicts my point, and none of what you said addresses it.
Similar to how cries of cries of a lack of internet censorship were eventually heard, the calls for a left wing Joe Rogan will eventually be heard.
The left might one day decide to turn itself into something that can sustain a left-wing Joe Rogan, but it is currently incapable of doing so. They might succeed in taking him down, they might succeed in having him supplanted by slop they control, but unless they change themselves, they're not reproducing him or the effect he's having on the world.
ArjinFerman
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10d ago
And where did "this one thing" come from? It didn't fall out from the sky, it wasn't a preexisting institution that managed to resist takeover by happenstance, it was built from scratch. If progressive propaganda was limitlessly effective this wouldn't happen in the first place, and they wouldn't be pulling their hair out at their inability to reproduce it.
ArjinFerman
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10d ago
Keep hoping I'll get to tinker a day or two past Tuesday, but at some point I have to cut the losses. A state that might persist well into July, let's see.
How have you been doing @Southkraut?
ArjinFerman
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10d ago
In my opinion, it's not about believing him, or not. The point is they gave him power, and what he did with it was thoroughly unimpressive, he can't blame that on the rest of the administration.
If it's because he was doing "typical Musk overpromising", maybe he should have thought twice before overpromising so much.
Musk is being ejected for some other reason.
Yeah, because he's causing chaos for absolutely no political benefit. Rubio at least brought some scalps when he was given charge of USAID.
If we just look at things which are not just directly related to the changed political valence of the platform
First, people are acting like the political valance of the platform has flipped, this is false. Progressives can post just as easily as they used to, they just don't want to do it when non-progressives have the right to respond.
Secondly, that's stacking the deck already, you can't just not look at it. It was total woke narrative control, even mild jokes used to get accounts nuked. A bit more spam is a fair price to pay for that, as far as I can tell. And it's objectively better that it's not like this anymore, as opposed to just better for one side, because you can't have a healthy ecosystem with one side nuking everyone that disagrees with them. Or put another way - a non-political person is better off having access to info from all tribes.
ArjinFerman
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10d ago
So who is really the odd one out here? The people who have managed to propagandize nigh every western institutional and intellectual space to deliver their message, or the people who periodically pop their heads out of the ocean of left wing propaganda to pissedly proclaim that you can't propagandize everything... Before diving back in.
I'm partial to "propaganda works", but clearly it has it's limits. Why else are they freaking out over Joe Rogan? If they conquered all spaces so thoroughly, shouldn't he be no threat to them?
ArjinFerman
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10d ago
Buying Twitter did not improve things.
You mean in the eyes of Blues / Greys, or actually? Because in my opinion it objectively did.
Maybe he can bring some of that spirit to his own companies, and actually deliver on some of the insane things he's been promising.
He was given quite a bit of power and room to play with DOGE, promised to find billions in waste and fraud, and came back with essentially nothing. The only reason he was even given this, is that he helped out by buying Twitter, and that debt needed repaying, but with time it became obvious he's a liability, so they had to cut him loose.
You are asking for non-public numbers that being a non-public company SpaceX is under no obligation to provide
I know, that's my point. My entire argument is that he's setting money on fire for gimmicks, and that if said gimmicks won't provide an actual return on investment, the parts of his companies that are bringing in revenue won't be enough to cover for the losses. To that I'm met with an endless stream of "but look at all the launches" arguments, that never actually show said launches are bringing enough profit to bailout projects like Starship, let alone the decline of Tesla.
account for roughly 2/3rds of the company's revenue, and since most of that is for actual services rather than hardware it probably has a decent profit margin, but everyone has their own assumptions.
Even though they're not selling a lot of hardware, they still need to make a lot of it to maintain the service. Starlink satelites have a 5 year lifespan. They need to keep making, and putting them into orbit. If launching them with Falcon was enough to justify the company's existence, I doubt he'd be trying to make Starship the Next Big Thing so quickly.
I know Musk is one of the richest people on Earth, but even he doesn't have unlimited cash to throw at a failing endevour.
Correct, this is why I called him "a dead man walking".
ArjinFerman
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10d ago
What a wonderful development. Get the popcorn.
Indeed!
Hopefully Musk learns what the majority of the rest of the grey tribe learned long ago: that Trump, while being useful for trashing wokeness, is broadly a thuggish buffoon.
If there was such a thing as "Elite Human Capital" which, for whatever reason, decided that Orange Man Bad, I'd imagine it would be capable of grasping truly mind-bending unintuitive ideas like "let the retards fight", but alas not only is the "Elite Human Capital at home" not capable of that, they picked the wrong retard to hitch themselves to.
It will be fun to see what they'll come up with to blame their own decision on the populists, a few months down the line.
abundance Democrat,
There's effectively no such thing. If an Abundance Democrat ever gets into power and a Woke Democrat demands their Abundant policies be filled with Wokeness, the former will cave immediately.
ArjinFerman
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10d ago
I suppose that's not nothing, but I can't call that convincing evidence.
ArjinFerman
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10d ago
Fully 2/3rds of my trips happen by electric unicycle these days
Ya got me. I wasn't counting e-bikes and e-scooters as EV's.
I might be confusing a lot of things, for a lot of other things. For instance, I might be confusing the abrupt breakup for an indication that Musk needed and didn't get a bailout, but I'm not confusing anything for Twitter drama.
ArjinFerman
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10d ago
State of disbelief?
I'm actually somewhat worried he'll tank the whole MAGA thing by using his connections to Trump to try to save himself.
Since the whole "save yourself by using Trump" plan didn't pan out, looks like he's determined to drag them down with him. Hopefully they can cut him loose before he does too much damage.
ArjinFerman
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10d ago
To be fair, it takes a really high IQ to watch a man go down in flames and say "I want in on some of that action!"
ArjinFerman
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12d ago
Percolation will depend on how cost effective the tech gets. It might happen at some point, but until then EV's will mostly be a matter of virtue signalling.
And even if it does happen, it's a separate question if Tesla pulls it off, or gets outpaced by competitors.
ArjinFerman
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12d ago
but he's got over 40% of SpaceX, which at its latest valuation gives him more like $135B capital there.
Was it actually sold to anyone at that price? Even stonk market valuations are often nothing more than memes, but at least they have an advantage of being an actual market price.
Nah, but they've been flat for 2 years after skyrocketing for the previous 2.
-13% worldwide sounds like declining, especially with the rest of the EV market growing. -50% in Europe does indeed sound like "tanking".
ArjinFerman
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12d ago
SpaceX has a hell of a lot of long-term government and military contracts.
Yes, some of them are even nearly overdue, and are fixed priced, no matter how many Starships get blown up!
Starship is just the flashy sports car to create brand awareness, and potentially develop future capabilities.
His Artemis contract depends on it working, and even then I have huge doubts about their galaxy-brained plan of a dozen refuels per trip to the moon.
The cost of the Starship project is quite small compared to the SpaceX bottom line
1-2 billion per year according to Musk himself. What's their bottom line?
ArjinFerman
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12d ago
While numerically having 50% of the launches, the Falcon family put more than 90% of the total mass into orbit
Yes, I've heard all that. Most of these are in-house for Starlink, and Musk is on record screaming at his employees that without Starship they won't be making much (any? He just said "poor financials") money with it.
Just please, won't someone show the actual profit the company is making. Literally none of this "dominance" matters if it can't bail out his failing endeavors.
ArjinFerman
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12d ago
every relationship dispute you describe there concentrates around sex.
Did she block naraburns over sex? Marriages falling apart is one thing, falling out with every friend you ever had is another. And when people in online support group are telling you you're the asshole... Ho boy...
If the circles he's describing were the majority of EV owners, why would car companies bother making anything other than luxury car EVs, and gas powered cars for the middle class?
ArjinFerman
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12d ago
Aren't you some London finance quant? The only way to get less representative of the average European from that is if you married into literal aristocracy.
We're talking global reserve currency here. Did Rome ever go bankrupt? That's the closest analogy I could think of.
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