Botond173
21d ago
Some chicken or egg here right?
Regarding vets, my wild guess regarding the matter is that as the agricultural sector serves as the livelihood of fewer and fewer citizens, things getting to a point where the people employed there are a handful of lifelong professionals and a huge mass of illegal immigrants, any agricultural work pretty much disappears as a potential career choice for anyone who's not already involved in it directly.
Botond173
21d ago
I don't think most of the horses that are still kept in any Western country are kept to serve as lifestock.
Botond173
21d ago
Rookie question but how was the drug dealer let into the campus? This seems to be a case of negligence.
Botond173
21d ago
That will die in a decade or so.
Horses are capable of reproducing though, unlike cars.
Botond173
21d ago
I think this is largely the result of anti-Southerner liberal narratives. The accepted line of thinking among the Blue Tribe faithful regarding this matter is that Jim Crow laws, lynchings, anti-black racism in general etc. in the South both before and after the Civil War were mainly driven by the sexual anxiety of angry and frustrated white men regarding the inclinations of their women and the prowess of black men, the main manifestation of this being accusations that horny black thugs are always looking for opportunities to rape clueless white women (this being the usual justification for lynchings of blacks). The average white liberal is soaked in this propaganda and thus reacts with willful ignorance, eye-rolling, incredulity and disdain to reports of black-on-white rapes.
Botond173
24d ago
'women who aren't selected for priding themselves on their modesty'? What does that refer to?
Botond173
24d ago
But elite class proper ladies do not make good comics because comedy is inherently transgressive, and 'being transgressive' is not what elite proper ladies do.
They are perfectly willing to be transgressive against the white outgroup though.
Botond173
24d ago
Valid points, I have to admit. I'd bring up the memory hole phenomenon here. Based on my rather cursory knowledge of these matters, the social scare about a new ice age was a rather short-lived phenomenon based on faulty scientific interpretations of dust and air pollution levels and caused by an unusually cold winter. This happened during the Carter Presidency when the concepts of green energy and environmental protection first got official sanction. And since Carter is generally remembered as a one-term disappointment and a well-meaning idealist loser who sadly paved the way for Reaganism unintentionally, down the memory hole this whole affair went among liberals.
The same applies to the whole overpopulation scare. As it pretty much stemmed from racism and classism, at least from a current left-wing perspective (i.e. the perception that brown and poor people are gross, and anything that's gross is always seen as proliferating), liberals generally disowned that as well afterwards. In fact, today they see overt concerns about overpopulation as Nazi-coded. The origin story of Planned Parenthood was also thrown down the memory hole for the same reason.
The campaign for unilateral nuclear disarmament / so-called nuclear freeze? Basically the same story. Such people today would get imprisoned as Russian agents and traitors. To the extent that liberals today are even against nuclear weapons (that is: pretty much none at all) it seems it's mostly just sadness and resentment that Russia has them as well because otherwise it'd be feasible to defeat and dismember (i.e. 'decolonize') the country.
So to sum it up: I think your argument is correct and liberals who adopted such beliefs in the past were probably more mainstream than not on balance. But it makes for important context that their tribe changed their views afterwards and disowned the old ones. Their current view which also shapes the mainstream is that such pessimism and doomerism was never their thing.
Botond173
24d ago
I don't know why the observation that there are more camel toes in a modern gym than in a zoo struck a nerve.
I believe the only women who can wear tight-fitting pants and yet not expose their camel toes are the pretty and slender ones – it’s just how female anatomy is – and women who aren’t like this don’t want to be reminded of it. The bygone patriarchy enforced the norm of female modesty which acted as a sort of non-aggression pact among women and took the ‘unfair’ advantage of hot women away. Feminists have demolished this without thinking twice and now their daughters and granddaughters are rightfully mad. Ideas have consequences.
Botond173
24d ago
I’m aware that the political strategy of the firewall / sanitary cordon has worked so far. My argument is that the success of this has not merely depended on deterrence, cancel culture and psychological duress but also the ability of the mainstream parties to plausibly sell a positive vision of the future. It’s this ability that has now slipped away, and only punitive methods remain to keep the masses in line. I don’t see how they can keep having electoral victories like this.
Botond173
25d ago
I know what you're going to say – sure, straight men have ulterior motives for laughing at a hot woman's unfunny jokes, but straight women don't, so hot women must still be receiving some accurate feedback on which material works and which doesn't.
I wasn't going to say that actually because the notion that hot women would ever feel compelled to tell jokes to or have banter with either other hot women or plain women never occurred to me.
But even if an attractive woman could somehow make herself funny, that in itself wouldn't make herself more desirable to the opposite sex.
Indeed.
It follows that the only women who'll join rock bands are either a) women who simply cannot resist following their artistic muses, or b) physically unattractive women desperate for something to make them seem more attractive or higher in status than they otherwise would be: no man really wants to date a girl who's a 4, but if you had to date a 4, a 4 who plays in a band might seem that bit cooler than a 4 who doesn't.
I'd also argue they are in many such cases willfully entering a predominantly male subculture in order to increase their mating chances due to themselves not being able to find eligible mates the conventional way for whatever reason.
Botond173
25d ago
I think women are generally not expected to impress men with sophisticated social skills.
Botond173
25d ago
Has anyone involved in this scandal in any capacity had the temerity to state the obvious - that women are generally not funny because nobody expects them to be so?
Botond173
25d ago
There’s another aspect to this. Dissident rightists and conservatives in general already have had an image as pessimist doomsayers and alarmists; that’s hardly anything new. It all plays into them generally losing elections. But in the case of mainstream liberals the attitude that is essentially the same or at least rather similar to this is relatively new and contradicts their usual image.
Botond173
25d ago
Not only are the stories told from the perspective of male characters, but those characters are completely unattractive to women. Tadano is a soft, unthreatening nice guy whose special ability is reading the room. Gojo is a fucking autist with zero sex drive who enjoys making dresses for dolls; if he was living in a less repressed society, he would be sucking cock in a gay bar, and he would be happy, instead of forcing himself to get hard enough to bang the retarded gyaru.
Well, I've not read the manga but I've seen the series and the bolded parts are plainly false. Either way, it all struck me as being targeted at female cosplayers and would-be cosplayers.
Botond173
25d ago
That’s just one aspect of it. Another is that the expansion process entails the provision of an US security guarantee to the Baltic nations, which are usually considered to be unable to defend themselves from a Russian invasion for more than 3-4 days or so, and the idea that the US would actually adhere to this guarantee is questionable. Before the expansion of NATO this was not much of an issue because a potential Soviet invasion and nuclear strike would’ve predominantly targeted West Germany and would have inevitably also targeted US military units stationed there, which is a clear act of war.
Another aspect of this whole process is that it clearly created some sort of illusion among Ukrainian nationalists that the Russian leadership will one day basically capitulate to them by doing nothing while Ukraine joins NATO and retains sovereignty over the Crimea and presumably expelling the Russian fleet from the naval base of Sevastopol.
Botond173
25d ago
I do. I suggest you and @Shrike can have a conversation about this.
Botond173
25d ago
The Finns sued for peace two times between 1940 and 1944 in their conflict with the USSR. Did they make the wrong choice then?
Botond173
25d ago
Trump has been very vocal about how Zelensky needs to stop using the targeting data that the US supplies them.
I'm guessing there is an evident question to be asked here.
Botond173
26d ago
Liberals don't advocate for de-jure open borders. But they believe that everyone who just walks up to the border should be able to make an asylum claim. And what do you know, liberals also believe that they should all be allowed to live and work while waiting for their claim to be processed, and of course they also believe that only an evil nazi racist would deny their totally valid claims.
Don't we have recent lived experience of this not actually being applicable when the refugees happen to be Boers?
Botond173
26d ago
Because they view the Ukraine war as an existential threat to the end of history and they liberal world order.
It rather seems that they did away with the ‘End of History’ thesis already and no longer believe that the process of globalization can continue in they way they generally imagined (well, fantasized) that it would. I think this should, in turn, reinforce the perception that they have recently (around 2014 or so) adopted a rather pessimist worldview. They are now treating Russia, China, North Korea, India and their ‘puppets’ as an enemy bloc that is to be sanctioned and cordoned off from the rest of the world that has inexorably and thankfully transitioned to liberal globalism.
And they aren't saying they should fight a war just they they should arm themselves to protect themselves and their families as Russia has shown itself to be a threat. A very conservative message if you think about it
I argue there are aspects to Western foreign policy regarding Ukraine that should at least make it rather questionable to conservatives. The most obvious one is that it’s happening in the context of a long-term policy of eastward NATO expansion (with a bunch of consequences of its own) which I think US conservatives should at least be skeptical about. The second is that whenever liberals emphasize the supposedly huge cultural differences between Ukraine and Russia the always focus on the wonderful globohomo-ness of the former; this should at least make conservatives think twice about the whole affair. The third I can think of is that the more cynical liberal-adjacent talking heads seem willing to admit that it’s not for the prosperity and well-being of the Ukrainian people that the war should be escalated but to weaken Russia which in turn is supposed to have fantastic benefits in the future or something. Again, obvious grounds for skepticism, I think. Four: conservatives should ponder what exactly the long-term goal of Atlanticist policy regarding Ukraine in particular was after 2004 or so and especially after 2014.
Now some might rightly point out that these are foundations of sand and I agree the democratic establishment is on borrowed time and I agree but it is still a massive juggernaut and I'm not confident it will be overturned in the next presidential politics.
I’m guessing you’re referring to the gerontocratic nature of the Dem leadership?
Objectively speaking the other sex is the other, though. Women are your fellow human beings, yes, but also fundamentally different from you. They aren't you, and you aren't them.
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