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Minotaur
Si vis pacem, fac bellum
White, right-wing, male.
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Banned by: @ZorbaTHut
Minotaur
Si vis pacem, fac bellum
1yr ago
I trust nothing said by US intelligence by default, sorry. I did not predict a quick toppling and I don't think anyone serious did, either. Ukraine isn't some goat-herding bunch of terrorists shaking AKs... and even the goat herders didn't go down quickly.
Minotaur
Si vis pacem, fac bellum
1yr ago
Indeed, it's not only physical weakness contributing to that.
Minotaur
Si vis pacem, fac bellum
1yr ago
Yes, they have incentives to work against my interests. That's how coalitions work, unfortunately -- I don't begrudge the farmers their desire to profit, but it doesn't mean I'm willing to accede to it, either. The appropriate response then would be for the non-farmers, who are numerically superior, to vote out the politicians.
Minotaur
Si vis pacem, fac bellum
1yr ago
Cracking down on employers would be an immoral action, anyway. That sort of thing shouldn't happen; the problem isn't "the illegals have a job", the problem is "the illegals exist". Frankly, employing them is likely helping them keep their ongoing criminality to a minimum.
The only people who should be punished for illegals are the illegals themselves and their advocates.
Minotaur
Si vis pacem, fac bellum
1yr ago
I can't vote.
Okay. I'll award you -1 bad point for not personally voting for this stuff, but +1 for each time you've advocated in its favor and helped push even one other person toward supporting it.
I can't vote so I'm not an activist is a really goofy take, my man.
Minotaur
Si vis pacem, fac bellum
1yr ago
Have they made it less 'progressive'? No, of course not. Have they made the definition of 'progressive' weirdly tolerant of Islamic norms that blatantly should be considered anti-progressive? I'd say undeniably, whether that's talking up the empowering nature of the hijab or overlooking mass child rape.
If Christians had half the tenacity Muslims do when it comes to violent martyrdom, Christianity would be significantly more respected in the west.
Minotaur
Si vis pacem, fac bellum
1yr ago
You do not need to command a state or a military or a corporate office. Islamic terrorism is effective, consistently effective, because it is personal and unstoppable on a human level. No amount of political or social influence can stop the sheer mind-numbing fear of death that comes from a devoted and violent enemy.
Violence works. It has worked all throughout human history. Violence is the truest and most honest form of conflict resolution that exists, and it cuts through all bullshit. Violence's only downside is that once you commit to it your life is endangered, and so people shy away from it. But if you can cross that threshold, if you can accept you have no future that isn't soaked in your own blood, you can wield a level of power rivaling any President, any dictator, any CEO.
All power is a proxy for violence. At its core, influence of any kind is the ability to have violence inflicted on someone. When you embrace the violence yourself, you are power.
Minotaur
Si vis pacem, fac bellum
1yr ago
But it "proves too much" - if cloudflare was entirely anti-kiwifarms, they would've folded in 2017, surely?
It's fun to make your enemies squirm. It's fun to make them obey you. It's fun to gather them in one place as a harmless boogeyman you can point to to help conjure up public support and sympathy. Up until they stop being so harmless, and someone actually wants to send a message, at which point there is nothing that can be done.
there are literally multiple different people in cloudflare. Prince is the CEO and as such probably makes decisions, but he does so for reasons, needs to make his people happy, investors, customers, etc.
Agreed. Prince is the most public-facing of the tentacles, not the only one.
Actually killing keffals would ... uh ... not help stop progressives?
I am still unsure to what extent I can advocate political violence here. Suffice to say "if you kill your enemies they win" was silly when Trudeau said it, and it's silly when you say it. You would in fact stop progressivism in its tracks if being a degenerate strongly elevated your risk of death. See: why even the woke don't tend to touch Islam.
Minotaur
Si vis pacem, fac bellum
1yr ago
There is no gun that can shoot Cloudflare. There is no action that can be taken against Cloudflare now or in the future. Cloudflare wants them gone, and is committed to their existential termination. Bowing down to them is simply pathetic behavior that will not change the outcome. Groveling is always the wrong move, even if they can find no other refuge.
Cloudflare is not a charging bull. It's not a mindless animal. It's a collection of thinking, reasoned sadists, who want Kiwifarms gone but more than that want Kiwifarms humiliated and broken. Being removed is inevitable; giving Cloudflare more satisfaction is wholly unnecessary.
Minotaur
Si vis pacem, fac bellum
1yr ago
Ukraine can and has endured with Russian sympathies in both the leadership and the people. The war is not existential.
Minotaur
Si vis pacem, fac bellum
1yr ago
There was never a serious chance the west wasn't going to support Ukraine. We gleefully egged this entire war on.
Minotaur
Si vis pacem, fac bellum
1yr ago
These things were obvious to me before this all played out, so I reject your claim it's hindsight. Russia has been an over-inflated boogieman for a long time.
Minotaur
Si vis pacem, fac bellum
1yr ago
The bravery Zelensky shows is less than the bravery of every normal Russian and Ukrainian soldier. The nobility of Zelensky's actions is less than the nobility of their actions. The self-sacrificial aspect is wholly absent in Zelensky's case, but ample in the soldiers.
Now, you want bravery, we have Vladimir Putin bravely resisting the combined might of the western world rising in defense of an anti-democratic and highly corrupt government defying the will of no small portion of its people, despite the immense cost it's exacting on his people and the stability of his regime.
You want nobility, we have a man striving to recreate a golden empire of old, of striking down an anti-Semitic enemy of old, of reuniting a separated people. Such nobility!
All that applies doubly so for heroism -- what high purpose Putin seeks! All Zelensky wants to do, in comparison, is maintain the unimpressive sovereignty of the Ukraine.
Now, I don't think Putin is brave, noble, or a hero. I also don't think Zelensky is. I could be swayed on the average soldier. But I do insist we be fair and even in our evaluation -- if Zelensky is a hero, then by all measures Putin is.
Also don't be a prick and misquote me. I didn't say Zelensky did it for the pussy. I included that as a perk, but my actual claim is that Zelensky is capitalizing on a tragedy to consolidate political power, purge domestic rivals, and set himself up for a long and illustrious career as either honorary President-for-life or local hero coasting on speaking fees and global patronage.
Minotaur
Si vis pacem, fac bellum
1yr ago
Very well, I concede 'every way' is incorrect. The west is not officially putting boots down on the ground (though I am sure there's plenty of veterans and consultants unofficially helping out), only the most important ways.
This really does not change what I said at all. Ukraine is getting immense amounts of incredibly important support. It's not standing on its own against the great beast.
Minotaur
Si vis pacem, fac bellum
1yr ago
I admire your optimistic belief that you could tutor the underclass and make them not garbage. How I wish that optimism was, even once, justified.
Minotaur
Si vis pacem, fac bellum
1yr ago
I dislike you and I will almost always be willing to express that. Do not mistake that for investment in your opinions.
Minotaur
Si vis pacem, fac bellum
1yr ago
You're free to decide there's no discussion to be had with me. We don't even need to have this discussion about it, you can just stop without trying to convince me to care.
Minotaur
Si vis pacem, fac bellum
1yr ago
A sufficiently brutish dog can kill a full-grown man. If you must lose, take someone down with you.
Minotaur
Si vis pacem, fac bellum
1yr ago
This sounds like your problem, not mine. I made my prediction; you can accept it or not, but I'm not going to humor your protestations.
Minotaur
Si vis pacem, fac bellum
1yr ago
Yeah, that's certainly something the leftist leviathan would want to convince people of. Color me skeptical.
Minotaur
Si vis pacem, fac bellum
1yr ago
The top three pandered to minorities are blacks, Muslims, and trannies. The first two have a long and consistent history of violent disagreement with whatever society houses them, which lets them wield disproportionate influence to their benefit. The trannies aren't personally violent, but they don't need to be: they are the system, they don't need to threaten it.
Eunuchs have a long and colorful history the world over of dominating and corrupting states. Unfortunately, their methods aren't reproducible by non-eunuchs.
Minotaur
Si vis pacem, fac bellum
1yr ago
Yes, that's war. People on both sides die. It's why we use proxies, so that people don't have to die en masse. But the more faith in the proxies falters, the more one side dominates the processes and subverts the systems, the more reason there is to abandon the proxies.
I've said elsewhere we will not have a second Civil War. I stand by that. But we will have violent troubles.
I predicted a war that would take three to five years to resolve. I also predicted this would go in Russia's favor, but the important thing is that it was never going to be fast. Anyone who thought it was was engaging in ridiculous wishful thinking -- nothing like this is fast. Savages in the hills last for decades, why would a modern state with a roughly modern if not amazing military not, especially with such significant backing?
Even now, I think Russia's eventual victory is more likely than not (though this changes bit by bit daily), but it will never be a quick victory. There will always be plenty of time for Zelensky to get out of Dodge if he really needs to, though I don't think he will -- even if Ukraine loses, I don't think the loss will be so total as to endanger him.
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