BANNED USER: repeated antagonism and bad behavior
Nantafiria
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User ID: 246
Banned by: @Amadan
Nantafiria
5mo ago
Yeah, that's on you, not the Israelis.
Okay, and?
Nantafiria
7mo ago
It'd be the subject of any-odd number of boring history classes university students go through to get their education.
Nantafiria
10mo ago
The set of people who can and will do so, and the set of people with politics similar to yours, have extremely little overlap.
Nantafiria
1yr ago
Re: bodycams in particular, IIRC there is evidence that bodycams don't do much to reduce police misconduct, indicating that either perpetrators aren't concerned about being disciplined or that they're not the kind of person to take it into account.
Or the third option, where the police have succesfully gotten all their benefits of bodycams(exonerating them if they do wrong) without any of the costs(catching their abuses). This has been ongoing for a while.
Nantafiria
1yr ago
I'll grant you the smart addendum, insofar most people here aren't dumb. Point granted. Smarts are no virtue, though, and the contrarianism reminds me of myself at age fifteen enough that I've seen what it's like, lived it, and want no more of it.
Surely, surely you trust the users on this site to assess arguments on their merits and not just adopt the position with the most upvotes?
The short answer is that I kinda don't. The slightly longer answer is that no, I don't think people judge things by their merits all that much. This place is one of proverbial Christians who lost their faith in God, and turned into satanists rather than atheists: that is, take the views of the NYT, the average Reddit moderator, the college professors you hate, and flip those views upside down. Scott's barber pole view of fashion would be the model here.
If Mottizens would only accept and upvote the most innocuous takes and ignore/punish stuff that seemed screwball, esoteric, or facially incorrect then what the hell would be the point of this forum at all?
It could be for any level of discussion that isn't finding a some retarded article written by a rando struggling to get by in NYC and getting wildly upset at its quality. Slavoj Žižek has made a bit of a name for himself arguing the most innocuous takes in thoroughly screwball fashion. We get none of that. We get all the SJW cringe compilations dressed up in more autistic language and robot-like tones, instead.
Nantafiria
1yr ago
Racist people from Alabama treat African Americans badly, which explains why they're doing so poorly, but are happy to see Nigerians zoom past them?
That's.. Kinda it, yeah. The Nigerians mostly aren't moving to the south, and when they do mostly don't get caught up in the sorts of dynamics southern black people do. Pretty much.
So you are saying there isn't a single non-white group that arrived poor, and who is doing better than whites nowadays? If I find one will you change your mind on the cycle of poverty?
No, and that's so far off the mark from what I wrote that I've no idea how you could read into it that way. What the hell, man? The Africans who migrated to America over the past fifty years, disproportionately, were among the most well-off and affluent people within their own societies. The same did not hold true for the slaves carted off that way. A skilled Nigerian worker migrating for a nation more than eager to receive skilled workers is going to have extremely different outcomes from someone whose ancestors were still slaves in the 1800s and whose (white) neighbours, by and large, wish they were anywhere but near them.
Nantafiria
1yr ago
Yeah, so the 'urban train-lovers' part of the equation here was the one that got unwilling to negotiate. Sure. I believe it.
Nantafiria
1yr ago
by their nature they like things the way they were or at least the way they were when they were kids
No? No. Hell no. Absolutely not. The past conservatives point at is always idealised and through no coincidence happens to align with their views perfectly. When the day that conservatives will be glad to return the union membership rates, societal wealth distribution, teenage pregnancy levels, alcohol consumption, the mother fucking housing policies or other issues yet from when they were young, I will in fact believe them. As-is, their link to the past is as tenuous as it's suspiciously convenient, and I'll have none of it.
Nantafiria
7mo ago
Then you can say that, rather than list an anecdote that doesn't look very related and leave your post at that.
Anyway.
Yeah, people lie. Lots. Oldest problem in the world. I'd appreciate if we might all be sincere as much as the next autist does, but we've got to live with the world we have. So it goes.
Nantafiria
7mo ago
I'm not a Dutch legal expert, and neither are you. All I know is that these things are discussed without anyone being jailed, prosecuted, or even told this'll invite legal trouble.
Nantafiria
7mo ago
As hydroacetylene below notes, the phrase tilting at windmills is an old one. We might as well grant that the right is full of fascists; after all, the left fights against those all the time, too.
Nantafiria
10mo ago
Yes, every community has liars and free riders. LGBT activists are human as much as anyone else. Indeed.
Nantafiria
1yr ago
Why do you want people to have more expensive goods? Does this only apply to housing, or to other stuff as well?
Nantafiria
1yr ago
No, police officers just turn their cams off/have them conveniently 'malfunction', and aren't getting punished for it when they do. The body cams function just fine when the evidence exonerates them though.
Nantafiria
1yr ago
What do you think you have such a superior level of insight than the median voter in the netherlands.
Everyone has an opinion where they deviate from whatever is normal within their respective nation. Sorry, I don't even know what you're on about any more, and I think we'll both be better off leaving this at rest.
Nantafiria
1yr ago
Norway
Because, you see, I'm just not sure why I should want to talk about Denmark when I am from the Netherlands, I know my own nation's situation best, and you not only provide no reason for why Finland is even relevant, you aren't even well-read on Icelandic issues yourself.
Nantafiria
1yr ago
On a scale of one to 'cities are disasters and should be ruled by rural dictators', how much heat is that exactly?
Nantafiria
1yr ago
So you can see why I brought it up then yes?
I'd assumed, and still do, you lean pedantic for little reason - Lord knows I have it in me. I haven't really swayed from that belief yet.
Nantafiria
1yr ago
That's really interesting. Who did Jefferson's actual farming again? How were these people treated? How did people grapple with the actual farming for the next century?
Nantafiria
7mo ago
'I can easily see' is the very weakest phrasing known to God and man alike. Is that all you've got?
Nantafiria
7mo ago
This has effectively been law since at least 1995, when the courts ruled that holocaust denial is a crime; the recent addendum is effectively codifying legal principles that have been around for a generation. I'm not a fan, either, but the chilling effect on honest discourse isn't there.
Nantafiria
8mo ago
I know, and I'm not arguing this. I'm arguing that spoils systems made for worse governance, make for worse governance, and that the people (or person, in this case) arguing for them make a damn good argument for why that's worth the cost. You cannot have your cake and eat it too; likewise, you can't insist on a system that fails continuously and handwave away its flaws with 'eh it's gonna be fine'.
Nantafiria
10mo ago
an EU embracing multiculturalism and 3rd world immigration:
You're not from any place near Europe, are you?
Why? They're not even really wrong. There are communists who are basically decent people. Nazis, not so much. A normal person might let a seventeen-year-old communist babysit their kids - a Nazi? Not a chance.
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