BANNED USER: repeated antagonism and bad behavior
Nantafiria
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User ID: 246
Banned by: @Amadan
Nantafiria
10mo ago
For a while they were at the very least acting like all they wanted is apolitical treatment, if they never believed it, why should I take them at their word regarding anything?
The standard response, and the correct one, is that the people who used to get them fired and beaten and marginalised are suddenly uncommonly invested in a tolerance they never believed in. Why should they believe anyone who talks about it when it never seems to have been on the table before?
That's flatly wrong. It was indeed possible to participate in hobby groups and focus on the hobby instead of any politics for many, many years prior to the awokening.
Not for gay people, it wasn't. And lest you compare their fate to yours, they were in fact born that way in a way the people bemoaning anything rainbow-colored aren't.
Nantafiria
10mo ago
I refer to my original comment, where being known as gay would get you barred from the military or most any normal person's job, and where this was so pervasive it was the expectation. "There's no such thing as no-politics" indeed, because these gay people I've met and spoken to never had a choice.
Nantafiria
10mo ago
I really don't ascribe to that sorts of view.
Nantafiria
10mo ago
Then, I suppose, I'll see you again when that time comes. I don't care to see discourse dragged down because you'd rather warn me than any number of low-effort culture warring posters lighting up my notifications here, and I don't care for being warned for posting a nah in response to that.
Nantafiria
10mo ago
He's plenty plain, rhetorical or not.
Nantafiria
10mo ago
Then you are on a different website than I am, because such comments are the order of the day. Constantly. They do not stop. To call out any single one without making it a hobby is a textbook isolated demand for rigor.
Nantafiria
7mo ago
If all the pieces fit, it is because it is very easy to fit anything into the glaringly big voids this jigsaw leaves us. 'It totally could be Joe, see, see!' isn't enough in court and it shouldn't be enough for much else, either.
Nantafiria
10mo ago
The progressives disagree with you that these spaces were ever non-political, and frankly, I think they're right. I could talk at length about Dutch pillarisation and the funny consequences this had for society, but the people who bemoan politics being everywhere now are people who haven't been paying attention for all that long.
Nantafiria
7mo ago
That this comment got the downvotes it did is a really good illustration for why they need to go, imo.
Nantafiria
10mo ago
If you will support your nation only when times are good to begin with, you were always a mercenary to begin with; it just so happens that the truth got revealed a little more dramatically in these cases.
Nantafiria
7mo ago
@yofuckreddit up there notes that he believes someone who can't get a driver's license probably doesn't deserve to vote. Fair enough. I'll echo the same perspective here: if you got defrauded by your granddaughter, wife, or ex-boyfriend, you deserve to lose that vote too. Consider those the wages of not treating the one vote you get more carefully, I suppose.
And re: 'I bet they happened widely in 2020'
Well, I bet they didn't. Now what?
Nantafiria
10mo ago
no honest person
You can do better than insist you're only talking to liars, and I'd appreciate if you did that rather than accuse me of lying to your face.
Because, for what it's worth, I'm sure those are the things you believe. And I'm also sure gay people are right to point out that these beliefs, today, are the ones of people who'd love to shove them back down the closet. Until there is a way to distinguish the likes of you from the likes of them, a good deal of them are going to take a dim view of people who bemoan a lost tolerance. A tolerance, I'll add, that they didn't see much of in the first place.
No one cared what you were doing outside the hobby group.
The workplace. The military. Public life in general.
The past is a foreign country; they do things differently there. History didn't start off in the 2010s, and plenty of people cared about that just fine.
Nantafiria
9mo ago
seeing how annoying you can be before you get banned.
That's not why I'm here, but fuck you and the horse you rode in on, too? The fuck?
Nantafiria
10mo ago
One hundred thousand fewer people on active duty, in an army of over a million, the cause of which the statistics (obviously) won't tell us.
If that's it, I'm going to keep filing this under the non-issue drawer, yeah.
Nantafiria
5mo ago
Yeah, that's on you, not the Israelis.
Okay, and?
Nantafiria
7mo ago
It'd be the subject of any-odd number of boring history classes university students go through to get their education.
Nantafiria
10mo ago
The set of people who can and will do so, and the set of people with politics similar to yours, have extremely little overlap.
Nantafiria
7mo ago
Then you can say that, rather than list an anecdote that doesn't look very related and leave your post at that.
Anyway.
Yeah, people lie. Lots. Oldest problem in the world. I'd appreciate if we might all be sincere as much as the next autist does, but we've got to live with the world we have. So it goes.
Nantafiria
7mo ago
I'm not a Dutch legal expert, and neither are you. All I know is that these things are discussed without anyone being jailed, prosecuted, or even told this'll invite legal trouble.
Nantafiria
7mo ago
As hydroacetylene below notes, the phrase tilting at windmills is an old one. We might as well grant that the right is full of fascists; after all, the left fights against those all the time, too.
Nantafiria
10mo ago
Yes, every community has liars and free riders. LGBT activists are human as much as anyone else. Indeed.
Nantafiria
7mo ago
'I can easily see' is the very weakest phrasing known to God and man alike. Is that all you've got?
Nantafiria
7mo ago
This has effectively been law since at least 1995, when the courts ruled that holocaust denial is a crime; the recent addendum is effectively codifying legal principles that have been around for a generation. I'm not a fan, either, but the chilling effect on honest discourse isn't there.
Nah.
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