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ArjinFerman

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Any that come close to "Demonic pigskin talking about bringing back slavery. Fuck the 'norms' you deserve to killed fuck you cracker bitch" on their level of emotion? Any that you would personally defend like you're doing this one?

I'm not shoehorning you with anybody. I'm just bemused that these "group X should be able to react emotionally to your arguments" demands are seemingly only made of me, and literally never on my behalf. I couldn't care less which group you belong to, or if you don't belong to any group at all, I care about the dynamics.

I'm not asking you to prove your past track record, I'm asking if you can think of a similar argument from the other side that you would treat the same way.

No different than if your priest tells you to shut up and listen because you are a sinner…

Except that doesn't happen.

I’m not Christian but if your local priest decides you cant partake in eucharist, as punishment for certain actions, in certain denominations aren’t you no longer in good standing?

For one, these days, not really. But the bigger point is that's an entirely different thing. This is chastising someone for what they did, I'm talking about shutting someone up because of what they are. Even in the former scenario there's a difference between Christians and progressives, in that Christians give you, in this case, a literal path to redemption. You stop doing what you did, you confess, and you're good again. With progressives once you're cancelled, you're cooked. Public apologies only make things worse.

Nobody has asked me to wax feminine balls

Lucky you.

that it can only be viewed with amused dispassion.

Are there any left-wing arguments that right-wingers are allowed to have emotional spergouts about, and you will personally defend them if they do?

Arguing over semantics does you no good.

It's not semantics. "Implicitly" means a completely different thing than "explicitly", and your argument is nowhere near as strong if you meant the former.

The logic presented in his comment also justifies the mass disenfranchisement of blacks

It might, or it might not, depending on many other factors. Reacting aggressively before determining what he said was true, is actually giving more strength to that argument than he did.

is your barometer then absolutely what i said applies to prog spaces. I exist in prog spaces and the avg white man is absolutely accepted as long as they mutter the shibboleths.

...with the caveat that if a bunch of "underprivileged" people tell you you need to shut up and listen to them because you're privileged, that's what you have to do. That's not what I call "good standing".

If anything they don’t really require you to believe them so much as you don’t cause waves or have some plausible deniability.

Yeah, but they regularly put you in situations where it's hard to keep plausible deniability. Feminists thought that they have to say "trans women are women" just to be nice, and then they got told to wax feminine balls.

By "place of honor" I mean a place where you're a member of community in good standing. In Christianity that's going to church and confessing (+possibly making amends, depending on the nature of your sin), that's the "path to redemption", and if you're on it, no one will bother you unless you start bothering others.

Also, creepy megachurch pastors? Pedo Priests?

They exist, but their existence was overblown compared to literally any other human institution.

Allowing people in power to abuse that power is classic human dynamics. Cast not the first stone unless ye are free from sin.

I'm not talking about abuses of power. I'm talking about what the given worldview sees as a justified use of power.

The difference being that Christianity does have a place of honor for you, even if you're not a champion smiting the infidels. For the progressives it's the only route to honor and glory, and it will only last for as long as you're useful to them. It's very pagan, and I feel like that's insulting to vast swathes of pagans.

None of that actually gives you an honorable place in the feminist or progressive movement, just more derision. What you actually need to do is score wins for the tribe in the public arena, then they'll let you do the creepiest sexist shit you can think of, and will even sweep it under the rug for you.

It's actually as anti-Christian as anything can be.

Oh yeah, I was there too. Somehow all the never-Trumpers didn't like him either.

My argument is that the antipathy between the groups is not the same thing as what one group decides to do to the other based on those feelings, so you're completely misportraying my argument, and his as well.

Edit: I answered from the notifications, and lost the context a bit. The countries you listed made me think you responded to the other comment where I listed them. But since bringing them up doesn't make a lot of sense without the context of the other comment, I'll leave my original response, and add an extra at the end related to this one.


Just a nitpick

According to Statistics Finland, 89% of the current Finnish population were born to mothers who were permanently resident in Finland at the time of their birth

That's very weasily wording. A permanent resident is not necessarily a Finn.

The total population of the countries listed above is ~40 million, and the percentage of that population who are considered native to their respective countries is about 79%. So contrary to claims of it being an ethnostate, Israel is actually more ethnically diverse than the average of all the countries you listed.

Each of these countries has a smaller population than Israel, and if I understood your argument correctly, it was about absolute numbers, not relative diversity, something like: there's a lot of white people, so they're not going to die out any time soon. If their population lower, than they are at a higher risk.

Also, keep in mind Israel is the only country with an above replacement fertility rate, so they're doing better, even if the other countries are more homogenous.

And it hardly needs stating that, in pretty much all of the countries listed above, the lion's share of the non-native population is made up of people from ethnic backgrounds closely related to that of the native population e.g. 24% of Latvia is Russian

In the other thread you argued that I shouldn't throw the Mizrahim in the same bag as the Arabs, but you're telling me Latvians are basically the same as Russians?

Also, this feels like just trying to get back to the "whites are all the same, look how many of them are, they will not die out any time soon" framing, when my argument is that if you look at individual nations, which is what we're doing with Israel, their position is much more precarious, so we should worry about them more than we do about Israel.


So contrary to claims of it being an ethnostate, Israel is actually more ethnically diverse than the average of all the countries you listed.

Come on, it clearly is. It's a state specifically set up for the benefit of a particular ethnicity, with strit immigration controls, and non-universal rights for it's citizens. Israelis explicitly say that their country needs to be majority Jewish (and I agree with them). If Israel is not an ethnostate, then I just want European states to implement the same laws that will also make them not-ethnostates.

No, I don't think I am.

You were. With this:

The origin of antisemitism, or any hatred of minorities, is not just the behavior of that group.

you're changing the subject. Your original claim was that the other poster's statement implied that the holocaust was justified.

The original claim was about the origins of antisemitism, not about what their antisemitism inspired them to do.

I could have a burning frothing-at-the-mouth hatred for someone, and still not do anything about it. A sociopath might murder someone just because they were in the way, but without any hard feelings. You're just conflating two unrelated things.

punishable by getting run over by a steamroller.

"Hey bro, I heard you like cylindrical projections...."

Come on, the region of Germany he's from is literally in his name. As to his political views, he could only be a tanky if you're a big subscriber to horseshoe theory, or it turned out he really likes tanks (I think he's more into medieval warfare).

Depending on what you mean by "swamp", that was not even the point. He could engage in all the corruption he wanted to, for all I care, as long as he broke from the current foreign policy establishment.

Also, if he wasn't the best, who do you think was better? I'm a pretty cynical bloke, and my sympathy for Trump didn't even come from his promises, but from the kinds of people who hated him, and the crying bluehairs weren't half as important here as the crying Bill Kristols. Did Kamala even promise to do less foreign wars than Trump?

If the straightforward read on politics is a road to disappointment, and so is the cynical read, what is there left?

They keep hitting the defect button, at this point we might as well make the cost for doing so, ugly

That was the entire point of getting Trump in, as far as I understood it. There comes a point where one starts doubting the point of democracy itself...

I wanted to persist the dead bugs into the background, even after I respawned them. Drawing directly to the background texture seemed like a straightforward solution, then you have one background sprite that can handle an infinite amount of dead bugs, and the engine takes it from there. The basic case of a single background cell was pretty easy, it's when I wanted to handle infinite scrolling that things started getting complicated.

Now that you mention it, I wonder if there isn't a built-in way to do it in the engine. Claude offered a few alternatives, but also said my idea is pretty solid, and after I mentioned infinite scrolling, even said it's probably the best way to handle it.

But if it would have happened anyway because he wasn't critical then having an informant on the inside doesn't meaningfully change much besides their access to information.

But if it would have happened anyway because he wasn't critical then did a supporter really "support" anything? I think this is just a fundamentally wrong way to analyze this.

So you understand that it is a common strategy to use informants

In literally said these agencies often use entrapment, and you're trying to frame it as agreement with you?

I made some progress with the background generation, but we're not quite there yet. What's happening now is that if the player moves off the current grid cell, more cells are generated, the old cells get copied from the shader memory, and normal textures are initialized from them, and assigned to the background sprites (this is when you see them turn pink). The new cells get assigned to the texture array that sits on the shader.

I've hit some issues on the way, as expected copying the textures from the GPU to the CPU slows things down, so I spread it out over a few seconds. This probably won't be enough though, because still have to shuffle the shader texture array around (if you move off-grid to the right, each cell in the array has to be moved left, and blank ones need to be created on to the right). Doing this on the CPU won't be feasible it would require 6 more GPU-CPU copies to read them and 9 more CPU-GPU copies to set them in their new positions, so I'll try to do the whole thing on the GPU. It's a lot of pixels to copy, but it should be a lot simpler code than the bug simulation, so I'm hoping I can do it in a single frame without affecting performance.

How have you been doing @Southkraut?

Agreed. However if the dissenting members (or some other subgroup) are accused of hypocrisy based on the stated views of some other subgroup, that's the sort of group responsibility I am talking about.

But has he done that here? I thought the accusation was that he isn't being specific, which would preclude from attributing views to people who dissent from them.

In this case, the Jew hater identified (1) "Jewish thinkers" who are allegedly responsible for pushing various norms of conduct on the world; and (2) "Zionists" who allegedly carve out an exception to violate these norms.

Sorry, the last comment I saw was about "Ethnostate for me, infinity zogs for thee". It's a reductive and snarky way to phrase it, but I think this view is actually shared by a majority of Jewish people.

This seems to assume that the Charlottesville rally would not have occured had they not been in touch with a single member of the larger group chat behind the rally.

No, it doesn't. I don't have to assume that a particular supporter was critical to an even to call him a supporter.

Consider in just the five years from 2012 to to this hearing in 2017 the ATF and DEA alone paid informants almost 260 million.

Yeah, glowies are also known for creating situations that would later allow themselves to swoop in, and call themselves heroes.

If his characterization of a specific case is correct, none of what you said is relevant. It's perfectly possible that on average things are more or less lime you describe, but people make an exception for Trump.