hydroacetylene
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hydroacetylene
3d ago
You just said so- the Amish. They retain their trad way of life in the middle of an ultra-modern society.
For a much more tech-y example, try the hutterites.
In Russia, there's the Anastasianists. They don't seem to be lindy, but they're living a traditional peasant lifestyle.
hydroacetylene
3d ago
He didn't 'allow' them to disarm him. He was disarmed while struggling and the gun went off(either because of manufacturer defect or due to mishandling). This is... a dangerous combination even if he's technically innocent of everything except resisting arrest and interfering in federal police operations.
hydroacetylene
3d ago
The labor shortage is definitely real. Most of these people are now either in the gig economy or sponging off welfare at lower consumption rates than pre-covid.
hydroacetylene
3d ago
Or he got lost on the greyhound. Or he was dressed appropriately for the weather a week before and didn't check the weather forecast. Or...
hydroacetylene
3d ago
Fahrenheit set its 0 at 0 because that was the coldest temperature old fashioned dial thermometers could measure, and its degree as 5/9 of a degree celsius to make it 180 degrees(like degrees of an angle) on old timey dial thermometers between the freezing and boiling point of water. They're both arbitrary and random.
hydroacetylene
3d ago
Eight celsius is cold enough that it might be unpleasant without proper clothing, but it's not 'passers-by should worry about hypothermia'.
hydroacetylene
3d ago
If you offer six figures to work as a janitor, of course you'll get people willing to do it. But the end result of that is far fewer janitors, not janitors getting a pay raise. There simply isn't a world where general construction laborers are all making well above average salaries, although there is a world in which construction is completely unaffordable. Drywallers, hotel maids, etc are not suddenly going to be making offshore-rig wages- although there might be no drywallers or hotel maids.
hydroacetylene
3d ago
And buying and returning thousands of salt shakers at target has something to do with anything? It's being treated as a game. They don't get that federal law enforcement is actual law enforcement. That's why they throw themselves into the middle of active police investigations and pretend they can't be arrested for it. That's why they fistfight cops and are shocked it doesn't turn out well.
Deeply unserious people, utterly disconnected from the real world. These aren't teenaged petty criminals making a bad decision under stress like the blacks that get got and spark protests- they're full blown adults who ought to know better. And they're treating it as a game with ICE breaking the rules. I guess that's what you get with a political movement founded on the idea that men can become women.
hydroacetylene
3d ago
Obviously not- was that not apparent over Covid at the latest?
hydroacetylene
3d ago
Illegals do not make massively less than citizens doing the same job. They are simply willing to do jobs it is difficult to get an American labor force on, and far more reliable than the non-working class that would theoretically be doing those jobs.
hydroacetylene
3d ago
The US is in the middle of a winter storm. If he lives in the mountains or the north, that's an entirely plausible temperature range.
hydroacetylene
3d ago
Trump backs the 2nd amendment people's policy requests. Therefore they back him, and the tyranny is being directed at people who openly hate them. It has nothing to do with attitudes to authority and a lot to do with tribal dynamics. I can remember the organized and disciplined state capital takeovers during the 2010's.
hydroacetylene
3d ago
As, indeed, regularly happens in a variety of sectors. That's how construction basically works- the company doing the whole job subcontracts most of the individual parts, and the shitty parts get subcontracted in turn out to fly-by-night companies employing illegals. This is because the native working class dysfunctional enough to want those jobs is dysfunctional enough to be incapable of holding down a job, unless lacking in freedom(hence why companies doing roofing and drywalling with citizens invariably have those citizens be on probation or parole).
hydroacetylene
3d ago
Tell that to Greg Abbott.
hydroacetylene
4d ago
There are functionally no illegal Somalis. Perhaps they shouldn't have been granted legal status but they were.
hydroacetylene
4d ago
Border crossing numbers started declining when Greg Abbott intimidated the Biden admin into letting him seal the border(well, most of it).
hydroacetylene
4d ago
I mean, the second amendment people are on Trump's side, because the opposition will betray them immediately and they know it.
Should've made friends long ago.
hydroacetylene
4d ago
Sure, who is going to carry out the leftist coup? The field grade officers in the military are still conservative. Federal law enforcement by the numbers is still conservative, even if certain agencies aren't.
Mid-level environmental protection bureaucrats don't carry out coups.
hydroacetylene
4d ago
And, notably, Eagle Pass doesn't have any higher of a standard of living than the towns on the Mexican side of the border(once you take local cost of living into account- northern Mexico is the nice developed part). The migrants got on the busses voluntarily because they wanted to go to the big cities with higher wages.
hydroacetylene
4d ago
I mean, dysfunctional behavior while carrying a gun is, well, FAFO territory. And don't need to be anti-second amendment to think that.
hydroacetylene
4d ago
Carrying a gun while peacefully protesting is something that American LEOs are generally trained to deal with, because outside of DC and NYC it is legal and at least common enough to need training for. Carrying a gun while interrupting police operations is a very serious crime that they are trained to deal with as a threat. Same thing as how you can carry a gun on your belt but absolutely not in your hand. It's a different brightline than the rest of the developed world has settled on, but it is a brightline nonetheless.
If you plan on committing a crime to act as a human shield, do so unarmed. Don't break the law while you're breaking the law. One crime at a time and all that.
hydroacetylene
4d ago
I am, I guess, a Trump supporter, in that I simply take for granted that the process of stasis has proceeded to the point of being irreversible and prefer a MAGA Caesar to an expertocrat one quite strongly. Perfectly understandable, given the way that the expertocrats treated me and mine.
But the ICE claim is that he was pulling a gun on them. This is, in the understanding of every police force ever, a perfectly normal and legitimate reason to use lethal force. We have some evidence for this claim even if it's hard to see- they recovered a gun(I doubt they're capable of planting a gun on someone while being observed- this sounds legitimately very hard) from him, there was a shot preceding ICE opening fire, and the ICE agents seem to be reacting as if it was a good shoot, not in a 'dude, what the hell' way. None of these datapoints are dispositive in themselves, but all of them point in the same direction.
hydroacetylene
4d ago
Specifically, the left seems to think federal law enforcement is a game. Their protests are part of the game, and it's just not just and playing by the rules to treat this as a serious issue that people can die in. Aside from toxoplasmosis, that's what all the outrage is coming from- this isn't supposed to be real. And to be completely fair, this attitude has treated them OK before this issue.
Right wingers have never treated their mass public protests as playtime. That's why you had state capital invasions with sufficient discipline that there weren't little incidents- that people could get seriously hurt in. And that in turn freaked out the left even more- when the Oregon or Virginia state capitals were overrun back in the late 2010's or the Covid protestors turned out the militias and everybody behaved with perfect seriousness and discipline. Remember the freakout about militias? Remember the contrast with the Not Fucking Around coalition(which was, actually, fucking around).
hydroacetylene
4d ago
I mean the fact that the other ICE agents didn't seem to react with shock and 'dude what the fuck did you do' indicates that some justification was present for the shooting- we have plenty of evidence that they interpret use of force rules more broadly than the cops in general, and very little that they operate random death squads.
Kinda clear from context he wasn’t talking about 46 F.
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