sarker
ketman hetman
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sarker
ketman hetman
2d ago
If getting a BA before an MD is so great, people will do it anyway. The argument that med schools are doing this for the benefit of the students is bewildering.
sarker
ketman hetman
3d ago
I did not say that it is impossible to change anything without making things worse.
Sure, but it is your uniform response to every proposal.
Also large swathes of medical care do not follow the laws of supply and demand due to things like inelasticity.
I'm not sure how you would have heard about "elasticity" without realizing that we talk about the "elasticity of supply or demand" and that it's a fundamental part of how supply and demand determine a market clearing price. To say that inelasticity means that supply and demand doesn't apply is to completely misunderstand Econ 101 level topics.
sarker
ketman hetman
3d ago
The amount of resource investment in a medical student (and later resident) is immense, like millions of dollars of physical stuff (like cadavers) and valuable time (not just lecture style teaching but academic physicians taken away from care provision to do education) and infrastructure. Not to mention the cost in tuition.
Okay, so let's reduce the investment by $100k-$200k (average cost of undergrad degree).
Once started you are locked in and if you leave at any time you leave with nothing.
True for every degree program.
And all of that to say nothing of the Western values of general education and such that you get out of a regular degree.
Totally irrelevant, retention for GE material is near zero.
Talking to you on this topic is remarkable because you seem totally convinced that everything in medicine is exempt from fundamental economic laws like supply and demand, it's impossible to change anything that touches doctors without making things worse (pay no attention to the other western countries that train MDs out of high school despite the allegedly ruinous cost of this and the other countries being much poorer than the US), and this margin is too small to contain a description of anything that can actually be done.
sarker
ketman hetman
3d ago
A great argument for moving undergrad or trade school back four years too.
Committing to being an (accountant, plumber, electrician) at age 20-28 is very different from age 16. At the latter people are mostly forced in by their parents, haven't explored their interests and haven't exhibited durable commitment. With how bad (accounting, apprenticeship) is, that's important.
Or more succinctly:
He's only 16, you sick fuck!
sarker
ketman hetman
3d ago
Decreasing training length by making undergrad medical school is a mixed bag. It works well in other countries with less economic opportunity and a less painful training period. In the U.S. you get lots of career changers into medicine (and you'd lose these) and drop out rates are reasonably high in med school/residency, this would worsen that problem. Think of all the Indian moms who would decide their 16 year old will be a doctor long before it becomes clear if that is reasonable. I don't know the drop out rates for BS/MD vs. traditional MD but I bet it's bad.
This just seems like obvious nonsense. When you make something cheaper to do, people do it more. There's more people who would be willing to become a doctor if it means four years until you get a degree, not less.
sarker
ketman hetman
4d ago
Effective reps is probably wrong.
sarker
ketman hetman
4d ago
High quality sets refer to those that employ exercises that are likely going to be limited by the muscle you’re trying to train, through the longest range of motion you can maintain with safe form, taken within 2-3 reps of failure*, and performed when you’re adequately recovered from your previous set (generally around 1.5-2 minutes of rest for isolation lifts, and 3-5+ minutes for heavy compound lifts).
sarker
ketman hetman
4d ago
Just generally try to do a bunch of hard sets.
sarker
ketman hetman
6d ago
And by doing so one unlocks the entire history of the English language
Let's not get carried away here - reading Shakespeare will help you with reading Old English approximately not at all.
I can't believe that the Germans are still rolling out the "he was just following orders" defense.
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