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yofuckreddit
1yr ago
I'm not going to discuss any specific studies because I don't want to google them. However, I'll echo my memory of the STD transmission rate in Africa being affected by circumcision.
I understand and sympathize with the anti-circumcision argument. I've just found that there's a big disconnect between the people I know in real life vs. internet advocates and the fringe-case traumatized victims. My buddies who are uncut, overall, wish they had been. None of my friends who are regret it or feel less whole. From a practical perspective cleaning your penis is a hell of a lot easier without folds. Sex becomes more complicated with potential rips etc. Oral isn't as straightforward for someone to perform. Once again this is anecdotal but a collection of minor inconveniences.
And then there's the final nail in the coffin for me which is female preference. Life isn't fair. What women want is what men give. There are entire illogical swaths of our society built around it. The accumulation of currency and power is, in my view, largely driven by concerns around sexual access. A significant percentage of American women prefer uncut cock and wishing / hoping they'll change their minds about it if we just stop circumcision is a pipe dream.
Nobody I know remembers being circumcised, but uncut buddies have an uphill battle getting laid. The risk of a botched procedure etc. seems low to me compared to the certainty of reduced sexual opportunities.
yofuckreddit
9mo ago
an existential threat to our democracy
I agree that these are trumped up charges, but this phrase ^ is now a license to check out from any conversation. I'd avoid using it.
yofuckreddit
9mo ago
Too many people online reach for this as an all-purpose defence and smug way of going "nothing like this on our side, it's all on the religious nutjob right side!"
I agree with this! But I also think the Catholic church's celibacy requirement means there is and always will be a problem greater than the general population.
At best, a significant amount of the clergy is closeted gay men. At worst, the male proclivity to favor younger partners (which we see represented in the gay community) manifests itself in inappropriate behavior with children in the church.
Finally, it's much harder to fix grooming and bad behavior in general society (because the nice progressive side is everywhere). The Catholic Church has a problem it can at least start to remedy. They'd have the added bonus of fixing their seminary recruitment problem at the same time.
yofuckreddit
9mo ago
Someone can have an idiotic belief and not be an idiot. I don't think that's a particularly complex concept either.
I'll allow myself a little bit of exaggeration and hyperbole. I've learned quite a bit from the Christians on this forum - surely y'all can handle a poke or two now and again.
yofuckreddit
9mo ago
I know there's an expectation that Christians "have" to do this. But from a pragmatic, as opposed to biblical edict standpoint, I'm never going to change. It's inviting conflict with no possible upside for anyone or a fictional god.
This is where my charge of arrogance comes into play. I've spent just as much time and effort, if not more, considering my beliefs and morality. I was born and raised in a pressure cooker of Christianity and haven't budged an inch. If they assume I'm too stupid to have actually thought this true, or that I'm weak enough to fold to their bullying, they're wrong on both fronts.
yofuckreddit
4mo ago
Of course, all Republicans are "fascists", but do you truly not see a difference in the tenor and hyperbole over Trump?
I do think a different candidate would be much harder for the Democrats to attack in this way. Trump makes it easy because he is an obviously narcissistic prick.
yofuckreddit
2mo ago
The other replies are exactly what you'd expect.
Absurd to pretend like food and TV isn't sometimes improved with alcohol. Or that the ballmer peak of sociability doesn't exist.
Or that drinking until you're hungover is a requirement? All these supplements, when a pickle, 2 cups of water, and ibuprofen, will completely solve your problem.
yofuckreddit
4mo ago
FWIW I have a similar feeling. The Supreme Court seat was a major move, and just because I have benefitted from it doesn't change the reality of how serious it was. Much of this feels downstream of that.
yofuckreddit
9mo ago
I'm willing to pretend I go along with their horseshit because I like fucking my wife
Is an extremely uncharitable reframing. My throwaway and silly line seems to be what many people, and you in particular, are centered on, so let's address the elephant in the room.
Did I, in fact, steal a high-quality Christian woman from her probable marriage to another Catholic? Sure - and my response to angst over that is Deal With It. The godly dating pool should have provided more men who actually help with kids, can hold a conversation / make a joke, and cook every once in a while instead of laying around in front of the TV.
The analogs to interracial marriage are plentiful. Your daughter can marry an black atheist, but only if he agrees to never bring up race submit completely to your belief system. You're not a bigot, honest, but you've seen too many horror stories of women being left as single mothers realizing that they've been lied to by hypocrites.
yofuckreddit
9mo ago
This is.... precisely why I posted it. I appreciate you catching it!
yofuckreddit
9mo ago
This thread is already dangerously close to doxxing me, and, even more importantly, being a fucking boring examination of my personal life. Whatever someone wants to think about me after this thread is fine, it's just a niche forum.
yofuckreddit
9mo ago
There seems to be a belief in this thread that I've been grinning and happy going to church, talking about how great catholicism is, and having my fingers surreptitiously crossed behind my back.
This is... not the case. It may be difficult to understand, but I can share most of my moral framework with a Christian while simultaneously despising organized religion as a fantastical tool of oppression.
And, this may be even more difficult to understand, but trumpeting my beliefs at every family gathering (especially those that, as we see from this thread, "hype people up") isn't very polite. I have found that routinely spitting in people's faces isn't good practice, personally or professionally. It may make me a coward, but I also don't spend my time trying to crush the idiotic progressive shit I hear from the HR team at work. My atheism-evangelizing days were left behind after 8th-grade graduation.
At the end of the day, I actually love my in-laws quite a bit. Just not this guy, so much.
yofuckreddit
9mo ago
You may consider it passe, but I personally believe in love as an actual thing.
yofuckreddit
9mo ago
Where are you imagining dishonesty on my part? I have made no oaths or promises to Christianity or this family about converting.
yofuckreddit
9mo ago
Given that the baptism of your children requires that you ask the Church to accept them as a member and publicly state that you intend to raise them in the Catholic faith
My wife verbalized this at the baptism, I didn't. We planned this out before we got married - it was annoying but they'll get to make their own decisions once they're older.
yofuckreddit
9mo ago
So how do you want me to interact with this post other than saying "nice blog bro!"? We aren't here to be your therapist.
I considered skipping posting for precisely this reason but figured it was an angle we don't tackle often. My worst fears are confirmed!
Are you sending your children to a classical school or a public school?
I don't have any good options here. The short answer is I don't know. I draw the line of our compromise at funding anything related to religion, and being the sole breadwinner provides me significant leverage. The public schools where I live now are unacceptable, and if I were to return to my hometown they'd be high-quality public (but my kids would be put through the same social shit I went through as a non-believer).
yofuckreddit
4mo ago
That's true, but it's immaterial to the gamesmanship of refusing to confirm a justice. The people doing it weren't seers predicting the future, they were changing precedent around confirmation as a political trap card.
yofuckreddit
9mo ago
- No. I would modify this to "Organizations in which celibacy is expected will attract those who practice deception since biology suggests most men have sex drives". Catholicism is decimating its pool of potential fantastic priests for what appears to me to be no reason. It's my understanding that the scriptural basis for this rule isn't even particularly strong.
- I specifically worded this the way I did because I don't believe the most inflammatory version ("Gays rape little boys"). I do believe the gay population is much more tolerant of vast age differences between partners, including those that dip below the age of consent. I also remember being a teenaged boy.
yofuckreddit
2mo ago
I think drinking 2-3 times a week is absolutely worth the cost, from all the articles I've read.
I make the same decision about Philly Cheesesteaks and fast food.
If you're maximizing longevity of life over quality, that's a valid decision, but I've never been interested in that.
yofuckreddit
1yr ago
I read a couple of years back an article by a gay guy lamenting that he (1) loved rimming with strangers (2) had, on three separate occasions, contracted some gastrointestinal disease I can't remember the name of
Well N=1 but I ain't contracted shit in terms of diseases. I do recall the only time I publicly disputed the party line being pushed by my bird class (human sexuality) professor was related to the topic. I don't do spontaneous ass-eating sessions though. I could be wrong, but carpe diem.
Re: anal being an uncrossable line... I don't connect fucking a horse to a human partner risking minor discomfort for potential pleasure. Or raping your wife. Admittedly, that may be just me! But if it's unpleasant for someone, it is what it is; I don't think buttsex should be considered standard equipment.
Cloning myself with an extra X chromosome at 17 is quite an interesting thought experiment. We'd probably have a great time if I didn't have a sister to bias myself against the experience.
yofuckreddit
1yr ago
is the same as the number of wrongfully convicted people on death row
These are probably similar numbers but I don't think they're similar ratio. Roughly:
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200 people have been Exonerated while on death row since 1970
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2,000 people are on death row each year
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Actual Executions aren't very common at all https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/12/28/u-s-ends-year-with-fewest-executions-since-1991/
Given the sheer difficulty of actually exonerating someone, the accuracy of convictions seems suspect.
I admit that "jailed for drug possession" is pretty much a myth/meme that Libertarians like to drop - including myself in the past.
yofuckreddit
1yr ago
I seriously doubt this, given how easy it is to get this done as an adult.
Why would anyone go through circumcision as an adult? There's no fucking way I'm having elective penis surgery, even if there were a couple of women who wouldn't go down on me for it.
It's obvious this is a sensitive subject for a lot of people here. If you don't want to hear other opinions you should probably be on a different forum. I took researching this and discussing it with a variety of people pretty seriously since I actually had to make the call for my kid. Anyone saying it's clear-cut or obvious doesn't get it.
yofuckreddit
1yr ago
How many of your friends have a basis for comparison? There may be a certain "ignorance is bliss" thing for most men.
... No appreciable number of people have this experience. Of course there's an "ignorance is bliss" component, I have no idea what it's like to have foreskin beyond when I was younger and had different skin/head ratios. I can tell you I didn't like the feeling but that doesn't mean anything.
yofuckreddit
3mo ago
This reminds me of the shopping cart debate in which people point out a bar, resting on the floor, to be considered a functioning member of society. And then many heavily "disabled" mothers explain why their corner case makes it OK.
Statistically, I don't see the case for any double divorcee to be a good husband, and Trump's inadequacy in the EQ department is both one of his strengths and one of the 100 nails in the coffin for his quality on that front.
I had quite the throwback culture war experience this past weekend. While at a family gathering, my dad was cornered by an in-law and quizzed about my “agnosticism”.
He was asked if he had led me to this lack of faith, and was then informed that it’s the patriarch’s responsibility to “get his family into heaven” – a neat little double-duty insult of both himself and me.
I tend to be a very laid-back guy in meatspace, but found myself livid. I’ve been in this family for close to a decade, and the sheer cowardice and arrogance of this exchange was breathtaking. To circle around to one of my direct family members instead of having the cajones to challenge me directly was ridiculous (and in hindsight, what I should have really expected from these people).
We’ve been existing in what I thought was a reasonable detente. As a victorious participant in the Atheism culture war, I’ve been kinda-sorta prepared to have these skirmishes with my wife’s catholic family for a long time. The unspoken agreement was that I go to church for holidays, let you splash water on my children, and don’t bring up anyone’s hypocrisy/the church’s corruption, rampant pedophilia/the inherent idiocy in believing in god.
In exchange, I get to stay balls deep in my excellent wife and should be left alone.
I’ll be the first to admit the excesses of Atheism’s victory laps and see how “live and let live” can slide down the slope into a children’s drag show. But this indirect exchange reminded me that when the culture war pendulum swings back, I should be prepared for the petty tyrants and fools on the religious right to reassert themselves. We’re already starting to see the tendrils of this, even if some of their forces have been replaced with rainbow-skinsuit churches across the US.
For Christian motteziens - No disrespect intended. I'm aware of the hypocrisy of my arrogance in this post, and it's intended to be somewhat tongue-in-cheek
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