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Culture War Roundup for the week of April 24, 2023

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I think actual behavior might be a better measure of support for interracial marriage than survey results as there is a lot of social pressure to say the right thing. Public opposition to interracial marriage has come almost entirely from minorities since 1990 (21% of Hispanics and Asians opposed, 35% of Blacks, but 7% of whites then. White numbers hit their all-time low of 2% as Obama was elected). The percentage of white, black, and Asian people who are married in race is 98%, 95%, and 92%. That seems like a huge preference to me. The reported numbers are inflated by counting Hispanic/White pairings as inter-racial. I wonder if I can find the rates for 1950? It seems 3% were interracial, which were almost entirely white/black (as the Asian exclusion rule was in effect, and Operation Wetback had just taken place). This is not too far from the current Black/White total. It seems there has been little, if any, actual movement.

There is no doubt that white people say they are not against interracial marriage, but they seem to marry black people at the rates they did in 1950? There are claims that new marriages are more interracial, but again, this seems driven by Hispanic numbers, which seem dubious. Are Elsa Pataky and Chris Hemsworth in an interracial marriage?

On the other hand, actual discrimination has taken a steep nosedive even if most people still harbor some racial prejudices and attitudes, so clearly something changed.

On the other hand, actual discrimination has taken a steep nosedive even if most people still harbor some racial prejudices and attitudes, so clearly something changed.

I take issue with the notion that actual discrimination has taken a steep nosedive.

I've lost contracts, both public and private, due to my race and my sex ("sorry, you've been fantastic, but we have a big push to switch to all woman-owned vendors"). And while I didn't choose to go to university, my children may as well not even apply to many elite institutions for the penalties held against them due to their skin color, their academic merit notwithstanding.

My town was hit hard by its own self-imposed lockdown, so they decided to subsidize new businesses in the downtown area by paying for much of the first year's rent, renovation costs, etc. Except, whoops, only for women and 'minorities' (which incidentally whites are in my state of California, but I guess that doesn't count). I've seen scarce medical care withheld from whites in favor of prioritizing members of 'marginalized communities'.

I've seen white men lie about being Chinese women to get their writing published. I've seen others agree that persons of their race should stop making creative content because "we've had our time and it's their turn now." I've seen major media producers explicitly announce that it is now against policy to make shows and movies about white families and communities for not being 'representative' enough.

I've seen white women express that it would be wrong for them to reproduce, and instead wax lyrical about adopting 'brown babies'. I've seen judges decide that Christians shouldn't be allowed to adopt children for their failure to conform to modern gender ideology.

I've seen schoolchildren emotionally destroyed over the guilt and hatred heaped upon them due to what 'their' ancestors purportedly did. I've seen gifted kids lose access to advanced education because the demographics of those who qualified weren't equitable enough and this might disadvantage the children who really matter. I've seen teachers penalized or forced into resignation for disciplining too many of the wrong type of children. I've seen whole fields of study at every level of education, some quite venerable and august; some, I would say, absolutely vital to our society; neutered or destroyed because they are too thoroughly associated with the wrong kind of ethnicity.

I've seen the media lynch white (and, actually, Asian) people for self-defense because the presumption of guilt can only run one way. I've seen police officers crucified for defending themselves and others against armed, dangerous, and aggressive blacks who sometimes were in the literal act of attempting to murder others. I've seen whites refuse to report crimes, even those which did them great damage, because they've been so brainwashed into thinking that it is somehow morally correct for them to do so by the education system, the media, and the state. I've seen communities burned, laid to waste, and seen this called justice because it was done in the name of the 'oppressed'.

I've seen governments refuse to hamper heinous criminal activity, from property crime to mass organized rape of children, because the perpetrators have what our old friend Autistic Thinker might have called 'Tropical privilege'.

I could keep going on, for quite some time, and we all know it.

Discrimination is pervasive, overt, systemic, and often explicitly codified.

Perhaps I should rephrase: actual discrimination against nonwhites has taken a nosedive. Given that that was the topic of the thread, I assumed I didn’t need to specify.

If we want to understand the mechanism behind the massive decrease in discrimination against non-Whites, we would do well to notice that it has coincided with a massive increase in discrimination against Whites.

Seems to me that most of the people I hear pointing this out at all immediately blame 'the Jews'. But I think this is a poor proxy for whatever is actually going on. Just wish I knew what it was.

How about the idea that it never was about discrimination or civil rights or anything high minded at all. Just "who will defeat or dominate whom?", like most conflicts.

Why would a nation do this to itself?

instead of nosediving it looks more like the polarity was just inverted.

No. No, it really hasn’t.

You had entire regions of the country with double sets of amenities just so whites could avoid contact with “colored people.” If you know of somewhere with Black-only bathrooms or streetcars, please let me know so I can narc on them to the ACLU.

What about safe spaces, does that count?, and then we have Affirmative action, segregated graduation ceremonies.

If you know of somewhere with Black-only bathrooms or streetcars, please let me know


so I can narc on them to the ACLU.

Please let me know how that goes.

Jesus Christ. Is this legal because it's...consensual? Surely someone has challenged it, because especially for public schools, it has to be a violation...

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