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naraburns  nihil supernum  6mo ago (text post)   27998 thread views

U.S. Election (Day?) 2024 Megathread

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I wonder how much Democratic lawfare mattered in this election?

For me, it made this election feel like an existential must-win for the Republicans. Trump, if he didn't win, was probably going to spend the rest of his life in prison.

And I know Trump started it with the whole "lock her up" thing. He's not innocent. But the fact remains that he never actually tried to lock her up. The Democrats, on the other hand, were really going to do it.

I hope and pray that this election puts an end to the lawfare which is all too common in failed third world democracies.

I don't want it stop. Trump might have "started it" in the sense that he saw Hillary committing naked crimes no other person would have gotten away with when it came to mishandling classified information. Like, literally anybody who has ever had a clearance knows you don't systematically exfiltrate your classified work materials home. And most of us had to take additional training after that happened about how no, no matter what you hear in the news, you are not allowed to do that and you can go to jail.

Trumps alleged crimes are more.... creative. Decades old sketchy sex stories, bizarre process crimes with no apparent victim, novel legal theories applied for the first time ever in history. He got nailed on shit you can have reasonable confidence almost every billionaire or politician has probably done, and/or things you are reasonably confident didn't actually happen.

I'd say he has a moral obligation to at least try to jail the corrupt government officials that weaponized the government against him.

So, uh, how’d you feel about Trump’s own handling of classified material?

The president is literally allowed to do whatever he wants with classified material -- this does not apply to the SoS.

OTOH I do believe that FOI law applies to the President, same as any other government employee -- so get back to me when Trump diverts all his comms to a private server where he can delete whatever he thinks will embarrass him later.

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