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Trigger warning - this is related to pornographic material

Lily Philips is an onlyfans model who slept with 100 guys in a single day. She is from the UK and does not have the background of a typical pornstar from the looks of it. Popular Youtube video maker Joshua Pieters made a documentary around it with her in it where at one point she just cracks where she gets a hint of what she just did, in trying to sleep with more guys than most friend circles do in a few lifetimes all for the sake of being edgy.

The clip has gained traction and I feel bad about the girl. Some Christian women are asking for her to be forgiven and taken back under gods grace whilst the Tate Brothers asked their followers to go undercover in her gangbang and literally preach the gospel to a cum infested e celeb. Hell this is the first time I have seen either of them show regret for having ran an onlyfans studio.

Lily and her friends have done similar things before but I cannot find any of it since any mention of her name brings up thousands of links about what she did this week. How do you even describe what she did given that she wants to do a 1000 in a day despite breaking down on camera? The cherry on this cake is that she can get married to a fairly normal guy tomorrow because Riley Reid, another adult entertainer did this too.

edit - removed a question about religiosity, since I think it came off in bad faith which is not my intent at all as a religous person

Do religious people actually genuinely believe that those who willingly perform such stunts are capable of having all their sins washed away?

I'm copying this from other comments because you removed it. I don't think this was in bad faith at all, it's a very good question.

And yes. But the form of Christianity I believe in also holds that, while God forgives all things because of genuine repentance, he doesn't remove the natural consequences of sin, and he doesn't remove the requirement for intense, even painful, spiritual growth and purification after partaking in sin. In this sense, yes, some sins are worse than others, and more sins are worse than fewer sins.

The closest person to Lily in the Christian tradition is probably St. Mary of Egypt, who was a prostitute who often refused payment for her services because she just loved sex, and even went on a pilgrimage to try and bang pilgrims. According to the hagiography, she tried to enter a church and could not, and was struck with remorse, pledging to become an aescetic if God would forgive her. After receiving absolution, she fled into the desert and lived as a hermit.

I don't see it in your comment -- did this woman repent? Did she publicly say that she's ashamed of her actions and she believes God has given her grace to overcome them? Has she been baptized? If not, will she?

If yes, my response to her is the same as to Russell Brand: I trust in God to judge you spiritually, but to earn my temporal respect you must prove your amendment over a long period of time, and that starts with shutting up.

Stop trying to be a celebrity. Don't go on shows to talk about how great your conversion is and how much of a degenerate you were and how much of a good Christian you are now -- just stop. Go into the desert. Become an aescetic. For someone whose sins are so public and attention-seeking, repentance must inevitably involve privacy and humility. And that path may be painful, involving great sacrifice -- it may indeed include religious vows someday. But no one said the Christian life was easy, least of all the man nailed to the cross.

When St. Paul became a Christian, he did not immediately set out to preach to the world, but fled to Arabia for three years. If your goal is truly to make yourself right with God, and not to win the favor of men, you should treasure this opportunity as a pearl of great price. Christianity is not a get-out-of-consequences-free-card, but the Way that leads to life.

But if your goal is merely to resurrect your temporal reputation and not to resurrect your soul, then you will be numbered among the goats and there can be no redemption for you.

She just cried and the Christians online including Tristan Tate, Andrew's brother are trying to get their followers to convert her over. She is probably completely unaware of what's going on and wants to be a harlot forever.

The girl I linked to in my post, the Christian one conveniently wants anyone with identitarian views to rot forever but finds great forgiveness for a harlot who makes even coomers repulsed by porn. Even though identitarians are mostly Christians in the west and this girl doesn't want to be religious or normal or settle down.

My question was in good faith, if a guy nukes the world and asks for forgiveness, if there any place for him. I'm a Hindu this is vague even here, I believe in second chances, I'm just not sure what kind of people would be honest about them and the redemption of their own soul.

I’m a Hindu

Do Hindus even believe in the concept of forgiveness at all? Isn’t your whole thing that souls get reincarnated forever and get a better or worse deal based on how evil they were in a previous life?

Christians believe that if you are genuinely repentant that you are forgiven. In fact perhaps the only unforgivable sin is believing that you couldn’t be forgiven.

and get a better or worse deal based on how evil they were in a previous life?

I thought that was a recent Western invention and Hindus don't actually think that you are earning Good Boy points and Bad Lad demerits and being rewarded or punished suitably in the next incarnation.

Edit: Don't trust whitey, at least not about Hinduism.

There are various sects but the unwritten laws and societal structures are largely same for all unless you dive deep into the texts for various texts.

I'm someone who leans more towards the vedas which are far more war focused than the puranas which are the latest and the ones with most made up stuff.

Also germanics had similar values and an understanding of the world not too far from Hindus. Survivethejive and Arya Akasha are two good sources for this from a western pov and the puri Shankracharya from an Indian pov.

"recent" is relative, but from the Upanishads:

'He's made of this. He's made of that.' What a man turns out to be depends on how he acts and on how he conducts himself. If his actions are good, he will turn into something good. If his actions are bad, he will turn into something bad. A man turns into something good by good action and into something bad by bad action. And so people say: 'A person here consists simply of desire.' A man resolves in accordance with his desire, acts in accordance with his resolve, and turns out to be in accordance with his action.

I've heard college educated white Americans confidently assert my above-mentioned statement.

Turns out they were wrong.

Hinduism in its purest forms is very reactionary and extremely complex since it's a in umbrella term for a whole lot of sects. The common view among most is that you do good deeds and are given a life based on them, those who attain salvation escape life and death.

Now there are absolutely sects that don't believe in re incarnation at all. Remember, Hindus in India follow a more Puranic faith which is the complete opposite of the vedas. Brahmins hard-coded a lot of things to keep society sane as the hbd kept getting worse as the Aryan stock went down and so you go from having hymns in vedas about indra destroying forts of dasyus to prohibition of onion and garlic and some dharmashastras stating that a woman is a virgin after each period.

People in India joke about how every good indologist has to visit Germany since that field I dead here. The actual unadulterated Aryan faith cannot work now, the people back then were different. Vedas for instance are actually compatible with things like evolution, the earth being round and asking people to go out and fight.

For scholars I can vouch for, I'd say Goldman is really good, his ramayana translation is the best out there if you wish to read it in a literary form. @sarker is right btw, though many boomers here definitely don't believe in free will intellectualy, at least the religious ones.