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Culture War Roundup for the week of October 31, 2022

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An extremely minor comment, but one of the great things about Finland are these bidet showers in most toilets, next to the seat, public or private. I've used them to clean my butt after taking a crap for over a decade, it's great. I can't fathom why they aren't more popular, even here it's common for people to think they're for cleaning the toilet or something.

Oh that's what we use back in India too, I wasn't thinking of the ones that just spray your ass from under the toilet seat haha

Other than the mild annoyance of swamp ass, which can be mitigated by just sitting still for a bit, they're so far ahead of tp it's farcical.

There's probably something I'm not understanding about bidets, especially because I've never really looked into them too much, seen one, or used one, and because they have so many people who sing their praises. But they sound so unsanitary! Wouldn't flecks of poop go flying out into the bowl and onto the faucets, wherein particles will then get recycled onto the cavities of the next person who uses the bidet? Also, does spraying water really get you that clean? I'd think that most times, you'd really need to rub in order to get yourself fully clean.

I think a much better solution is to just use wet wipes. They allow you to apply elbow grease, not just lightly shower yourself off. And then you don't have to also worry about getting showered with particles of someone else's waste.

The hand shower bidet has just about a 100% conversion rate. Almost literally everyone who uses one immediately admits defeat at its absolute utility over any other method of cleaning your asshole.

Use one and you too will change your tone. Some hand showers have such high water pressure that you can literally tear into your own asshole if you don't angle the stream slightly off. Because of said pressure the sanity issues you mentioned are usually not of much concern.

What's the conversion rate for people who use wet wipes already? I'm sure bidets have great appeal for people who were raised just to use toilet paper, but that's because just using toilet paper is a horrible practice that will never get you fully clean. But if you already use a mechanism that allows you to achieve improved cleanliness like wet wipes, I think a bidet sounds less like a no brainer.

having used all of these methods, IMO the bidet is the clear winner. it's not even close

What's the conversion rate for people who use integrated bidets? Seems less messy to have the prepositioned wand spray into a sealed hindquarters + bowl area than manually targetting spay. Most bidets of any design seem to also incorporate antibacterial additives for similar hygiene reasons.

The really off-putting but not necessarily unsanitary (although not great for plumbing when using soap) are hand faucets that feed into the cistern.

Nah, manually targeting is far superior. Its not as if you need to carry out kinematics equations in your head to not spray shit all over your toilet. Its more or less muscle memory for me.

All the disadvantages people are speculating about the hand shower bidets are actually more likely to happen with integrated bidets.

^ All personal opinion obviously.

A good bidet shower will get you clean reliably. You can of course always use toilet paper to verify, and also to dry your butt a bit.

The unsanitary bit is the air being filled with droplets of shit infused water, floating around the room wherever they please. Keep in mind that I put the toilet seat down before I flush and refuse to keep my toothbrush in a bathroom with a toilet in it for this reason.

I use a hand shower bidet, and flush the toilet with the lid open and keep my toothbrush in that same room. I'm still alive.

Yeah man, coprophiles straight up eat and have sex with shit and live, but that doesn't make me want to try it.

I doubt living after literally eating shit is not the same as living after maybe having a shit molecule enter your body.

You bidet guys think you are being hygienic because you limit the amount of poop on your butt. And that is definitely more hygienic than not limiting the amount of poop on your butt. But what I care about is poop in my mouth. So I do everything I can to limit that. It is no different, except that I think a little extra poop near my butt is better than a little extra poop in my mouth. And like Harold I don't want nappy rash so I use baby wipes, so it probably is only a few extra molecules either way. It is just that my way gets less poop molecules in my mouth.

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