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(1) Making America complicit in ethnic cleansing is a moral stain on us forever, occurring in the 21st century where every nation should know better — this is not the mid 20th or 19th century; as Trump’s continual 1.7 million remark tells us, there are 500,000 dead in Gaza, and if America goes in these bodies will be placed on us and not Israel — the history books will surely be written so that we the ones who did it; (2) Hamas is still in operation, so American blood and resources will be spent on Israel again; (3) if you think Western culture bears the blood guilt of WWII, consider how Arab people will look at us for the next few hundred years — meanwhile, Jews being responsible for displacing* Palestinians would at once delete the holocaust from our whole collective storehouse of political metaphors, as it almost has now for the Left; (4) it’s naive to think America will ever “own” it, we will be responsible for trillions in rebuilding it for Israeli settlers, and then a president will come along whose donors / influences push him to give it away to Israel.
God, I absolutely hate attempts to subsume so many different things under "ethnic cleansing" or genocide.
Gaza is a smoldering ruin. The US gov is, as far as I can tell, not indicating a desire to send its remaining denizens to a gas chamber. It seems they're being relocated, presumably with enormous amounts of US aid and direct support, with US forces probably being more palatable to the locals than Israelis would be, the place is being rebuilt from the ground up, at which point I presume return tickets might be booked.
If this is "ethnic cleansing" in a manner that deserves to be condemned, so am I when I do a bad job with my laundry.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_cleansing
https://www.britannica.com/topic/ethnic-cleansing
attempt to create ethnically homogeneous geographic areas through the deportation or forcible displacement of persons belonging to particular ethnic groups
the systematic forced removal of ethnic, racial, or religious groups from a given area, with the intent of making the society ethnically homogeneous
The Likud party platform calls for the Jewish state’s control over Gaza. Le Monde’s editorial board calls it ethnic cleansing. From the BBC:
Ethnic cleansing is a term developed in the 80s, so it is obviously not defined by events before that. The assertion that Trump is rebuilding if for Gazans to return is… more than fanciful. If Jewish Israelis want to ethnically cleanse Gazans, they should do it themselves — with their own blood, money, and reputation.
Ethnic cleansing is good, actually. You want your places clean, after all.
Multiethnic countries don't work, or don't work for long.
The two countries that will be carrying out the ethnic cleansing have been multiethnic since their inception, though largely of one faith.
America has not been multi-ethnic since its inception.
Enslaved Africans (and indentured servants from, among other places, Ireland) have been here since before the arrival of the Puritans in New England, and only about a decade after the establishment of Jamestown. Even if you exclude the Amerindians (which, fair enough, so do I) it’s simply a fact that a substantial portion of non-Anglo-Saxon people have always been a sizable part of the populace of this country, even if they were not integrated into the political fabric of society.
It's not like I'm ignorant of that fact. I excluded them, just as you did the Indians.
The country itself was very clear that they were excluded, too, when it was founded.
The key difference is that unlike the Indians — who lived in geographically-distinct territory and with whom colonists were in near-constant explicit military conflict and treaty negotiations — the Africans and indentured Irish lived side-by-side with Americans, interacting daily with them and participating in cultural exchange. (This is especially true of free blacks, who were a non-negligible part of the population of northern states from pretty early on. I don’t think it’s a situation remotely comparable to the Indians.
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