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Culture War Roundup for the week of November 21, 2022

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I see no reason to doubt the "aversion to creepers" reason. Creeping can involve something as simple as a guy staring at them for too long. The real question, as in my post, is why do the same women complaining about creepers advocate for them in the strongest possible terms?

Continuing in the theme of my post, women can't be explicit about what they want men to do. This is the case because the type of man that has to be explicitly told is not the type of man they are interested in. So I think in order of preference they would like to a) the men to completely eradicate bums/addicts in a brutal oppression campaign despite their protests, b) the bums/addicts/criminals to become dominant and return to honor culture (at least there is some vitality in public life), c) the good men to continue letting bums walk all over them and their women (least good option). Note that the women will continue to advocate for c the entire time, complaining more as it worsens.

So I think in order of preference they would like to a) the men to completely eradicate bums/addicts in a brutal oppression campaign despite their protests, b) the bums/addicts/criminals to become dominant and return to honor culture (at least there is some vitality in public life), c) the good men to continue letting bums walk all over them and their women (least good option)

Why don't men want those too? Your argument for women wanting those is just 'they are good', which - sure, but why does that mean women 'subconsciously' want them in a way men don't?

women can't be explicit about what they want men to do. This is the case because the type of man that has to be explicitly told is not the type of man they are interested in

Why is this the case? A lot of redpillers/manosphere people say this but I rarely find persuasive arguments that it's true. In general I find it tiresome when rationalists try and mental judo this idea of 'they say one thing but mean/want another.'

I've read a lot of erotica over the years. The ubiquitous trend in the women-perspective stuff is of a man who knows what she wants, no, needs, without her having to ever ask for it or admit it until well after the point where it's just stating the obvious. Conversely, a very common theme in the men-perspective stuff is a woman who is frank and open about what she wants.

I don't know exactly why these paradigms exist, but it seems very likely that they do.

Yeah, but that doesn't mean that modern women innately want neoreaction or trad morality in any way (op's claim), just have some desire for a man to lead, which is quite different

Because they both want what they can’t have.

I've read a lot of erotica over the years.

Why?

Aphantasia, being a voracious reader, easier to conceal, and being old enough to remember when pictures and especially video online was a frustrating pain in the ass.

Is this meme true? Do women admit this is true?

There are only two rules:

  1. Be attractive.

  2. Don't be unattractive.

I think you're conflating bums and creepers. I used to ride public transit a lot and there were definitely creeper types but I never pegged any of them as bums. The bums mostly kept to themselves.

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