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Culture War Roundup for the week of September 8, 2025

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This is the correct reaction to have. It's a good excuse for me to shoe horn in shoe0nHead's reaction that went semi-viral and for many people put into words exactly what they were feeling. And something about it seems especially poignant in the style of a sleep deprived, unedited, 1000 word run on sentence. It ends with

posting videos and pictures of charlie’s wife and young kids will not move them because they cannot relate and never will. they are atomized bug people who hate their families and themselves. the unfortunate product of modern society. they are miserable evil human beings and i owe many people many apologies for ever thinking otherwise. maybe i will calm down, but i couldnt sleep, but i am absolutely demoralized and blackpilled beyond belief. i do not want my child growing up in a world like this. sick evil shit.

The last few days have been the clearest demonstration of evil I've ever witnessed. Teachers, doctors, lawyers, federal employees, friends, family all jubilant that a man different from me in the smallest of degrees was publicly executed, and his wife, not very different from my wife, and his children, about the same age as my child, are now widowed and fatherless. And they cheer. To bounce it back to shoe

it is clear how they reacted about charlie is how they would react about me, my friends, my family, any of you, your friends, your family that have ever stepped out of line of the nebulous ever changing definition of “progressive”, anyone who has ever been called a “nazi” for the stupidest shit in the last 10+ years.

And if it happened to you, they'd go over everything you ever said online, and cherry pick the worst of it, or the worst of it they could take out of context. And then tens of millions of people would receive their talking points and go around repeating how you deserved to die because you said "X". Did you actually say "X"? Did you actually say "X" in they way they thought you said "X"? Doesn't matter.

I've been beating the drum for over a year, and occasionally got in some mod trouble, that the left is roiling up their base to pogrom the right. Can there be any more doubt? Teachers are celebrating the murder of an innocent father and husband, publicly, under their real name, and we leave our children with them 40 hours a week. I keep seeing people push back "How do we know he was radicalized at college?" Now we don't have the ironclad chain of evidence to show. But we can plainly see that even in the moment he's shot, the crowd at that college is cheering. Sure looks like a radicalizing environment to me. Makes me wonder what the fuck they've been teaching there.

The last few days have been the clearest demonstration of evil I've ever witnessed. Teachers, doctors, lawyers, federal employees, friends, family all jubilant that a man different from me in the smallest of degrees was publicly executed, and his wife, not very different from my wife, and his children, about the same age as my child, are now widowed and fatherless. And they cheer.

Why do you care so much? It’s just some crazy teachers, doctors, lawyers, federal employees, friends, family on campus, bro.

Also: first time? It was basically in the Paleolithic era when Sam Hyde said “these people want you broke, dead, your kids raped and brainwashed, and they think it's funny.” I think anthropologists even found a cave painting in Spain of this quote depicted with stick figures.

Teachers are celebrating the murder of an innocent father and husband, publicly, under their real name, and we leave our children with them 40 hours a week.

The same teachers who do things like celebrate the murder of a law-abiding white conservative father will then act incredulous that some large subset of white conservative fathers is against things like drag queens interacting with their children in school. Surely white conservative fathers have no probable cause to think progressive teachers don’t have their children’s best interests in mind?

I don’t know anything about shoe0nhead beyond what’s been discussed here, that Tweet of hers, and from a brief Googling. However, for a SJW-critical economic leftist internet personality, it strikes me that it takes a certain amount of blindness, naivete, or willful obliviousness to have not at least wondered earlier that if—as a white mother of a white child—she’s at best a situationally useful idiot ally to the left and an enemy by default (except when there’s potentially a greater enemy at hand: white men).

I was gritting my teeth somewhat skimming her Tweet, due to the lack of capitalization (who does she think she is, hbd chick?), run-on-sentences, and general wall-of-textiness, but I powered through (I know, I know, what a heroic act of Emotional Labor). Interestingly, much of her stream-of-consciousness sounds like her independently arriving at the viral Tweet that “If you call yourself leftist, you can get away with embracing non-socialist economic positions, and won’t be kicked out of the club by peers. You can not get away with not affirming black worship, trannyism, and replacement migration. Therefore, that is what leftism is”:

i am not “leaving the left” i still have all my economic left positions, i am quintessentially a 2015 berniebro, a huey long disciple, for strong social safety nets, workers rights etc that hasnt changed and only has gotten stronger with time. i side with them on things like Israel & war in general. but is that even what left is nowadays? i dont know. looking around, socially, *personally*, on a human level, if this is what the left is i am not left…

from the insane, bizarre reaction to the murder of an innocent woman on a train reflexively getting madder about people being mad about it than the actual murder, dismissing people’s very real concerns about a dying decaying society to “well thats just living in a city, chud!” “car accidents are more common!” to celebrating the gruesome murder of a husband, father, just a guy. not a politician, not a CEO- a fucking guy. for having normiecon campus conservative coworker politics…

many things have made me feel this way over the years (dnc fucking bernie twice, covid lockdowns, trucker protest, being lied to about kyle rittenhouse and believing it like a moron, drag kid shit, being gaslit with the balenciaga “drama”, realizing “adults should be able to do what they want” is becoming a fascist belief, the “bike karen” lie, how they wanted Daniel Penny’s head for doing the exact community policing they talked about wanting, i can go on) but this week in particular has been eye opening”

Better late than never, I suppose.

posting videos and pictures of charlie’s wife and young kids will not move them because they cannot relate and never will.

It can move them all right, albeit contrary to the direction for which shoe0nhead might hope. As The Motte has discussed before, many people have an instinctual disgust reaction to seeing a white mother with white children, even with father not pictured. I suspect white mother and children with white-father-not-pictured-due-to-a-minor-case-of-murdered will not be an exception here.

I do not think it is because being a father means nothing to them. Rather that, because Kirk is their enemy, he is worse for being a father - either he created more evil children or his innocent children were forced to live with an evil father.

A relative expressed that at least Kirk couldn't force his daughter to not have an abortion from rape.

shoe0nHead's reaction

I went and read all her tweets over the last few days. I really think the assassination genuinely shifted her political views and view of the current political climate. She seems quite distressed about the whole thing. Some of this would be because she is also a moderate influencer with a fairly large platform, who is married with kids. Many in that position (some on the left too) feel very vulnerable right now.

I think there's a large amount of people like shoe that thought a lot of the spicy takes and fascist labeling from the far left was just rhetorical larping. Now however it seems the radicals actually did drink the koolaid and see even moderate right wing influencers as goose stepping Hugo Boss enjoyers.

She was always an economic-left / cultural-righ type. I don't think her views changed much at all outside of coming to certain unflattering conclusions about the state of the contemporary left.