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So two adults coordinating a child porn ring is acceptable as long as it's done in private? Might need to walk back your literally nothing claim here.
I'm sorry, but if you're in such a world where you genuinely believe that every man jokes this way and anyone who doesn't is just a liar, it says a lot more about you and the people you hang out with in your dark matter world than about men in general.
This type of defense is truly incredible just as a concept though. Like it's literally "Yes all men!" but as an endorsement, it comes off as a lack of imagination and theory of mind.
The world that looks more like the dark matter world from my perspective is the bubble that has formed adjacent the Western progressive ideology, where the healthy and fun trust exercise of saying outlandish things in private company, knowing that all present trust you to not really mean it, is taken deathly seriously.
If the men you know never make offensive jokes and can't even fathom why making offensive jokes is fun, I think they have poorer lives for it.
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I italicized "said" for a very specific reason. Plenty of things you can do that are unacceptable behavior. But the doing is the bad part not the saying. And ya you can larp being pedos in your own private time. As long as you don't do it why should I care?
This "world" I'm living in is also called TheMotte. Every other comment here is agreeing with me. I don't think it is literally every man, but it's close. Similar to the percentage of men that jerk off to porn. Sorry if that is also a revelation to you.
I don't think I'm the one lacking in theory of mind. Everyone here is telling you this is a common experience and your response has basically been 'no way!' how many people would you need to hear it from to believe us? I can find you clips of famous people talking about it, but unless you pre-commit to some threshold that would change your mind I'm sure you'll just find new reasons to dismiss that evidence.
That's crazy, the place you choose to associate with has similar opinions to you? Incredible! That totally disproves the idea that other people exist with different views.
Also "every other comment" except for the ones like me who are disagreeing with you.
If you think the amount of men who joke about their love for Hitler and say Jews are dishonest is the same as men who like porn, you seem to have a very pessimistic and sad view of men. There are lots of fantastic guys. Even lots of fantastic conservative guys who are actively condemning this behavior like Governor Scott, or some of the guys at the Babylon bee or some of the National Review reporters.
And there are also lots of men who say "No, I don't talk about how Jews are dishonest all the time". Sure maybe they're pretty much all lying, but it's also possible that you are stuck in a Hitler Bubble where you associate with others in the hitler bubble and you can't fathom that there are tons of great and fine men not in the Hitler Bubble.
AKA "guys who know and accept the work rules."
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What is your threshold for being convinced? If you don't have one that's fine, that saves me even more time.
I believe you'll find the threshold is "just the other side of whatever is on offer".
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Literally "Yes [practically] all men!" That's correct. "Locker room talk" is real.
There's a Chappell Show sketch about a woman who develops psychic powers and hears men's thoughts. She is comedically horrified at every man she meets including a middle school boy. You are resembling that character a bit.
I think you have a very sad and hateful view of what men are like if you believe they're all joking about how Jews are dishonest and gas chambers.
I think you have a very sad and hateful view of humor if you believe that someone joking about how Jews are dishonest and gas chambers is something that reflects badly on them.
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Yes. Why wouldn't it be? They'd still obviously be liable for creation/distribution/possession of the child porn itself so there's no need to crack down on mere "coordination" other than an authoritarian desire to sneak in more control over private speech in general.
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