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Ins't the US age of consent 16? Now you can well argue that these 16 year olds were coerced but then having sex with them would be rape regardless of whether they were 16 or 21 so the age factor would drop out of the equation completely and it just becomes "Trump used coerced prostitutes" which is a much weaker story and would have dropped out of the news years ago (see the Stormy Daniels saga, although she wasn't coerced). The fact that it's continuing means at the very least some of the people were under 16 when the relevant events happened.
Everyone knows that's false, though, for reasons Sloot covered above. And most claimed "coercion" is just progressive/selfish-woman-speak for "he said he wouldn't keep supplying/buying me X if I didn't put out/consent" anyway, so using that standard I'm forced to conclude it's very unlikely the Rotherham girls were coerced either.
In a landscape where the media tends to blow its load all at once I sincerely doubt this is the case.
The Rotherham girls were a lot younger than the women/girls on Epstein's island. The official report states that the majority were between the ages of 10 and 16.
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Depends on the state, but crossing state lines to have sex with a woman under 18 is probably illegal somehow, even if the states involved have a lower age.
I wonder what odd juxtapositions exist in places like Nevada where prostitution is legal and the age of consent is 16. Like if you’re a teacher at a public high school and some kid there is employed at the Mustang Ranch, is it legal to go and fuck your students? That always seemed disgusting as fuck to me.
Whenever you see an age of consent below 18 it almost always is actually accompanied by a number of caveats. Prostitution, pornography, age difference and the adult being an authority figure being very common variables to be taken into consideration.
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IDK about that, but Texas has an age of consent of 17 unless you have some legitimate reason for knowing the minor in question, in which case it's 18, and flat out bans school district employees from having sex with the students. These seem like obvious rule patches.
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This page indicates that the minimum age for prostitution in Nevada is 18 or 21, depending on the county.
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I don't think that follows. I think the fact that it's continuing means that, at the very least, the people who are continuing this believe that they can create a public impression that some of the people were under 16 when the relevant events happened. Hard to say if the people who are continuing this also believe that some of the people were under 16 when the relevant events happened, but their belief regarding this doesn't matter, it's the belief of the voting populace that matters.
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Like everything else in America, it varies by state. However, since Hollywood is in California, 18 has been memed into the canonical age of consent throughout the country (and, indeed, around the world).
Critically, 18 is the age at which normie parents - and particularly normie red tribe parents - stop thinking "What if this was my daughter?". Of course the reality is that Mirpuri rape gangs, Jeffrey Epstein, your local street corner pimp etc. all preferentially go after kids without high-functioning, involved parents, so it was vanishingly unlikely to be your daughter. But I don't think normies get this.
If it was your teenage daughter, the age of consent in your jurisdiction wouldn't be relevant to your desire to wreak terrible revenge against the sleazebag.
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Some US states have their age of consent at 18. But even if it wasn't, it's not like the moral outrage would stop over that. I notice that people who loudly decry sex with late-teen girls generally aren't considering local ages of consent as a valid argument in favor. It would simply shift to "they weren't adults".
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