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Culture War Roundup for the week of December 29, 2025

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I had some thoughts about this back when that DignifAI thing was doing the rounds:

Unlike editing a photo of Trump so it looks like he's riding a skateboard or whatever, I don't think it's hard to understand why editing Alice/Bob's publicly posted photo to make it look more sexualised than the original is crossing a line: there's a significant possibility that people might mistake the edited photo for the genuine article, and Alice/Bob will take a reputational hit, as people will assume that they are the kind of person who shares thirst trap photos for public consumption. Even if the photos are obviously fake (as in the recent Taylor Swift "deepfakes", which look more like the kind of stylised fetish fanart which has been around for years before LLMs were a thing), I think it's still demeaning to reduce a real person to the status of a sex object without their consent.

I thought DignifAI had legs, but of course the gooners demand the opposite service.

I think it's still demeaning to reduce a real person to the status of a sex object without their consent.

Reputational harm is covered under libel/slander/defamation laws, but does require other people to actually believe the falsehoods that someone published.

So exactly how much modification would it take before its no longer 'believable.' If they stylize it as a different artstyle?

I keep pointing out that with AI, whatever guidelines you put in place, the AI can tiptoe RIGHT up to them and stick a single pixel over the line.

Ultimately this is also why I don't see how Onlyfans continues to exist as a business model for flesh-and-blood women after this year.

Ultimately this is also why I don't see how Onlyfans continues to exist as a business model for flesh-and-blood women after this year.

That one is easy.

Ultimately, it'll become an even more premium service. Gooners will pay extra for some sort of cryptographically verifiable proof of realness. Setting up a digital chain of custody from a digital camera to actual final presentation on OnlyFans or another site wouldn't be too arduous and (markets in everything) someone will create a service to do just that.

Saying that AI porn will destroy "regular" porn fails because it relies on the same logic as "porn will destroy the market for webcam girls / strip clubs / prostitutes." It isn't all about the simple visual arousal, but about a parasocial/pararomantic/paraintimate relationship.

This is where my model of the goonbrain really fails.

If you're going to such absolute lengths to be 'certain' that the girl in question actually exists, surely its better to pay for in person companionship?

It doesn't parse, for me, how you can require a physical person actually exist for you to get off to the content, but NOT also inherently prefer that person be physically present. Which obviates the fear of it being faked, entirely.

Although I guess I can imagine a guy who is deathly afraid of getting arrested for soliciting a prostitute which drives him to avoid paying for sex.

Streamers/OnlyFan girls of various stripes tend to be much cheaper than prostitutes/escorts.

...I think. I'm sure someone can trot out an example of a rather ludicrious OnlyFans where the pricing is absolutely stratospheric, but the last time my morbid curiosity led me down that particular rabbit hole, that was my general take on the matter.

I'm gonna say its comparable to any other gig economy/gamified app. The basics are pretty cheap, but they rack up all kinds of extra charges where-ever possible, and milking the whales is the real profit center.

Basically, buying an OF is marking yourself as a possible sucker just by putting the basic money down, and the ecosystem is going to do its damnedest to drain your wallet.

I haven't availed myself of prostitutes, the standard strip club experience annoys me enough with the constant upsell even knowing that they can't actually promise the outcome you're hoping for.

Think of a goodbrained version of "never meet your heroes." If a goon actually pays for a prostitute or companion of some sort, he has to fully interact with a person for some length of time. That could go wrong. It could make him feel bad. The distance created by a screen creates a perception of control and the ability to "Rage quit" if things go south. But they still want the knowledge that there's someone real over there.

Don't get me wrong, a portion of the "real people" online sex market will be taken by AI. Perhaps a pretty large portion of it. But there's going to remain these other niches. If online porn and COVID didn't kill stripclubs (and it didn't), I don't see how they every really go away.

Map of worldwide prostitution laws

While I get that, you can still find strip clubs if you're willing to leave the house (this might be the true motivation, the desire to never go out in public).

Reputational harm is covered under libel/slander/defamation laws, but does require other people to actually believe the falsehoods that someone published.

That's technically not a requirement for defamation per se, but I don't know enough about defamation law to say whether or not this counts as per se defamation. I do believe that legislatures could define it as defamation per se by statute if they wanted to though.

defamation per se still requires that there be an "accusation," which means in this case, you'd have to prove that the kids were claiming these AI generated images were real pictures, not fakes. It's no different than if they had drawn lewd pictures of her.

I imagine that unless it was an obvious parody or fake, or that the boys were explicitly telling their friends that they were AI generated and not real etc., most courts would presume that the images were being presented as real.

And once again, I'm not sure if it'd survive 1A scrutiny.

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