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How about a different kind of AI culture war? I speak of course of non-consensual pornography generation. The most outrageous article I read about this recently was probably this AP article: Boys at her school shared AI-generated, nude images of her. After a fight, she was the one expelled. The girl in question is 13 and she started a fight on a school bus with one of the boys later charged with a crime for sharing the images.
It turns out that finding apps that advertise this kind of functionality is not hard. In fact, part of the reason I bring this up is it seems this capability is integrated into one of the largest AIs: Grok. There's been some controversy on X over the last couple days after Grok allegedly generated pornographic images of a couple minor girls. Additionally the bot's "media" tab was disabled, allegedly due to the discovery lots of people were using the bot to make pornographic edits of other people's pictures. Though the media tab is gone I did not find it very hard to get Grok to link me its own posts with these kinds of edits.
There is, I think understandably, a lot of controversy going around about this. It's not that it was previously impossible to make this kind of content but the fidelity and availability was much more limited and certainly required more technical skill. Being something you can do without even leaving your favorite social media app seems like something of a game changer.
Frankly I am unsure where to go with this as a policy matter. Should someone be liable for this? Criminal or civil? Who? Just the generating user? The tool that does the generating? As a general matter I have some intuitions about AI conduct being tortious but difficulty locating who should be liable.
If someone did this to my daughter I'd slap the shit out of them. I'd also be proud of my daughter for taking the matter into her own hands and beating the shit out of them.
Conversely, if my son did this I would hope he'd get his ass kicked by the girl and if her father came looking for him I would say I understand bro have at him just don't send him to the hospital.
I think I'm expressing majority feelings about this. Surely we can form rules around this accordingly.
Are you hardcore no-fap? Not that I think the dissemination and whatever other social stuff around this is outstanding, but obtaining nudes of cute girls in your high school would have been considered a high accomplishment for high school boys as long as high school and photos have existed.
Like with all porn the AI nudes are a little queer. Its much higher status and much better behavior to seduce her in real life, but some edits to an already existing thirst-trap image is hardly something you should let your son be beat over. I'd suggest the more appropriate action is the girl is removed from any ability to be online and the boy has to agree to supervised courtship if the girl's father so demands.
That at least requires the boy to make some effort at seducing the girl into sending him nudes of her. This was an idiot using AI to paste her features onto a nude photo, and hand it around claiming it was of her, so the other idiot boys could laugh at it and mock her. She's 13, she did not consent to any of this.
God's sake, we have enough posters on here criticising women for riding the cock carousel, sleeping with Chads, wanting to cuckold the betas who simp for them with alphas, and the rest of the poisonous discourse. Do you really think nude images of a 13 year old girl are anything but "bitch whore, even at that young they're at it" material? Do you think the teenage boys are being respectful and admiring of empowered sexual equality here?
This is why porn is dangerous; it creates such expectations in society, then normalises them, so 13 year old boys are now faking nudes of 13 year old girls for sexual gratification. And not a stranger or any random 13 year old, someone they know. Someone who will get the reputation among her peers of being easy, a whore, all the negatives that the "coerce women to have sex with men they don't want" posters on here like to throw at women. Creating expectations that she'll agree to sexual activity of some kind with random boys, because hey I've already seen your nudes.
We already saw this shit in the Loudon County case of the girl sexually assaulted by the trans girl/boy in the school bathroom: oh, they used to sneak off to the bathroom and fool around before, so this time so what if she changed her mind and he tried to/did rape her? She agreed by being intimate with him in previous situations, so really it's all her fault.
And this child didn't even agree to any of this, and they are not real images of her, but she is going to get the blame all the same.
I agree! The problem is porn. The problem does not lie with 13 year old boys using the tools provided to them to get quality fapping in.
Yeah, if 13 year olds are routinely using porn, and this is their introduction to relationships between the sexes, and if normies are getting concerned about choking (they're picking this up from porn as the expected thing to do during sex and that women want it, and girls are picking it up that they should be doing this), then something has gone sideways in our society.
Even that 13 year olds are now going to have sexual lives. Yeah, puberty happens, yeah masturbation happens. But that "okay, now you're old enough to get an erection, this is your welcome to adulthood and sex, of course you're going to develop a 'fapping style'", is something that does make me uncomfortable and does mark me out as a dinosaur. We're at the nadir where simultaneously we must not hold 25 year olds responsible for choices since their brains are not fully developed, but we're marketing sex to 13 year olds because that's old and mature enough to jump right in to full sexual activity.
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