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I wasn't suggesting the OP try to set up an explicitly white nationalist town, just that it's not hard to find an almost 100% white conservative town in America. And yet as your article shows most white American conservatives aren't actually white Nationalists, the people who ran Craig Cobb out of that North Dakota town, are statistically going to be mostly Trump voters.
Which is why I asked OP about the "evil" he wants to contain. I maybe should have phrased my question a bit better. A better question maybe would have been what does he want to change about society? Because if it's wanting to be left alone as a white conservative well that's easy to enough to achieve, if you want to seize control of the culture well that's something different. And your probably right about Eastern Europe but that just adds another layer, which is that the "program" is basically the post Christian religion of white countries the only countries effectively resisting it are non white countries, especially Islamic ones. Russia is but only by repression a democratic Russia would see St. Petersburg draped in rainbow flags pretty quick. There's a lot of tension in wanting a white society not part of the current program.
It was just an example, if you tried setting up an exclusive religious community, you'd be treated largely the same way. Like I said the core issue is being able to ensure that the community stays the way you want it to be, and that the powers that be can't just come over and pull the rug from under you. I get that you can find communities that are ~100% aligned ethnically, religiously, or whatever to your liking in America, but lots of these communities have been deliberately uprooted by the state and federal government shenanigans in the past, and there's no indication the situation will change any time soon. You might say "but there are still a lot of these communities left", but I don't think reasonable to demand that people who just want to be left alone, are also told to move periodically - and that's without taking into account the fact that they'll obviously run out of places to move to at some point.
If you're reading this thread, you've surely seen the kind of things people are upset about - being extremely lenient to criminals, while being punitive toward people who defend themselves from them; using the public school system to indoctrinate children into bizarre ideologies that demand they self-flagellate for the way they are born; the medical establishment performing undisclosed gender-experiments on their children, and outright lying to ensure the parents' compliance; public schools helping to facilitate these experiments in secret from their parents... The list goes on, and I'm sure you've already seen most of these complaints.
It's not actually easy to be left alone. All the things I mentioned are imposed top-down, even on conservative localities.
You're acting like these rainbow flags are put up organically, like the English flags in the UK, and aren't put their by paid NGO mercenaries, backed by it's own apparatus of repression.
I disagree with this America has tons of exclusive religious communities and is probably the best place to do that. The Amish, the Hasidics, Scientology, Polygamist Mormons, dozens and dozens of New Age type cults and compounds in California. America is probably the best place in the world. The ones who I can think were deliberately uprooted were the FLDs and Branch Davidians but they were both violating Federal Law. No illegal guns and no underage brides and they would have been left alone. The US is full of of autonomous religious communities outside the mainstream and the Federal government has not destroyed them.
Sure once they've won they can get repressive but they definitely have enough woke lib Russians in St. Petersberg to hang up some rainbow flags organically. As for the NGO cadre, they function a lot more like missionaries then mercenaries. All throughout the FSU (even in the Muslim countries) there are earnest young liberals who want nothing more than for their countries to become Western Europe and are eager to take money from the West to spread their message.
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There would be no shortage of organic ones, and likely a few NGOs. The demand for Russia's tradbasedness vastly outstrips the supply, and while many Russians are not exactly the ones chafing to go "in this house we believe" if only the laws allow it, the active opposition to the LGBT flags number few, and are likely sponsored.
You don't need tradbasdness to not have rainbow flags, you need progwokenwss to have them. Even in the west, with people sympathetic to wokeness, the amount of in your face symbolism would go down by 10x, if it wasn't artificially propped up, simply because people have better shit to do.
In fact, this already happened, between when the Floydening ended and the "Kamala is for they/them" ad hit home.
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In my estimation, Russia (at the very least St. Petersburg, the capital of Russian artsy progressives) does not lack progwokes. And unlike Western progwokes who gassed themselves out on their victory lap, there's still a lot of winning for Russian progwokes.
What's "artificially propped up"? Sure, I'll agree that near-mandatory sensitivity consulting corporations are probably the central example of artificial propping-up. In the case of a manager of a small coffee shop deciding to put up rainbow flags during June, I wouldn't agree that it's artificial. There wouldn't be specific laws against "propagandizing the LGBT community" if no one really wanted to propagandize the LGBT community. As you say, just the lack of mandating the LGBT propaganda would be enough.
LGBT is almost always unpopular among the common people because smarmy effeminate weirdos tend to be their public face. Banning 'LGBT propaganda' doesn't mean that there's lots of people eager to spread LGBT; it means that the government wants to show that it listens to the common people more than it wants to show it cares about tolerance/expanding human rights.
There was definitely a whole network of organizations run by earnest young Russian libs who want Russia to be Western. Unpopular in general doesn't mean unpopular in St. Petersberg and Moscow.
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It's all the money that goes into all the orgs that put up all these flags, organize all the marches, etc.
You think this was put up by a small coffee shop?
So, as long as the money is collectively raised in any way, it's artificial? I'm just trying to determine the actual boundaries of your definition of artificial.
No. I do think 10x less than that will still be disliked by those who want to dislike it. Hell, 100x less than that.
Not "in any way", you can have fundraisers and whatnot. But taking tax money to fund the indoctrination of people and their children, into values they consider hostile, sounds pretty artificial to me. It's not even necessarily bad, per se. I support various forms of tax-funded indoctrination, but remember that the conversation was about how anti-wokeness stems only from "repression", I'm pointing out the repression it takes to promote wokeness to begin with.
If the flags were just put up by local cafe's and the like, I might dislike it, but it would hardly bother me.
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