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THE OUTCOME OF THE BATTLE OF STANCILGRAD STARTS TO BECOME APPARENT
Jumping back to the pre-war CW topics. There was a lot of debate during Operation Metro Surge about the wisdom of the tactics and choices being made in Minneapolis. We won't be able to really assess the results for years if not decades, but we're getting some early returns. After the killings of Renee Good and Alex Pretti, Greg Bovino was removed from Minneapolis and there was debate over whether this represented a pullback by ICE, or just a shuffling of personnel. Politico reports a decline in immigration cases.
So we're seeing a drop in cases, related to a shift in administration priorities. I noticed less ICE in the news, and local activist networks were talking about ICE less, but they still seemed to be around and there was no declaration that things were cooling off. Trump has periodically made noises about laying off of workers in certain industries, but that’s never been really confirmed as official policy. Statistics and reporting now seem to be confirming a pullback after the deaths in Minneapolis. Obviously, some are not such big fans of this. Elsewhere in Washington
((Prince, notably, had this to say about the recent Iran war:
It remains to be seen what Mar’Kwayne and his homeboys will do when they are put in charge of DHS. Possibly, given that we are now on a war footing with the largest state sponsor of terrorism, he will have other priorities altogether. I suspect the confirmation hearings will be an opportunity for Democrats to put Mar’Kwayne on tape about ICE policies, and to force Republicans to vote on the record before the midterms.
But if we see a sustained pullback in ICE raids along the lines of Metro Surge, and a net reduction in deportations, we have to call this a victory on the part of the protestors. Renee Good and Alex Pretti will have been successfully, if not exactly willingly, martyred for the cause. The whistles, the Telegram chats, the aggressive policy of confrontation with authorities, will have at least temporarily forced the administration to change course. A sufficiently determined and brave protest movement was not defeated. Love them or hate them, they appear to have succeeded, and others interested in changing American policy should take note. If enough people are willing to put themselves in the gunsights, the government will not be willing to slaughter Americans wholesale.
Does this reflect a fundamentally bad plan in Metro Surge? What adjustments can be made to neutralize this kind of aggressive protest against ICE? Does this reflect an underlying shift in public opinion?
My theory remains as ever that the plurality of Americans would broadly like to see immigration normalized, with illegal immigrants removed or otherwise punished, but that they are unwilling to accept the steps necessary to get there. So we're trapped in a permanent state of exception.
The answer like many topics is that Americans in general are not nearly as retarded as elites seem to think and their lazy attempts at doing and saying extremist unpopular things while denying it with "nuh uh that's not true" doesn't actually work well outside of the far left and far right cultists. The Biden admin forcing through progressive policies while pretending to be moderate lost them the popular vote suddenly, and the Trump administration has decided to take the same approach.
"Illegal immigration" is both a great example of the noncentral fallacy and of a motte and bailey.
When the Trump admin says it's only illegal immigration, and the DHS is talking about deporting a number equal to all non white people in the country, they undermine their claims. They have left this post up for months, it is not a mistake. Americans are not retards, people who are for removing illegal immigrants but not every minority sees this sort of thing too and gets pushed away from supporting his agenda.
Likewise when the Trump admin strips the legal status of people who came here properly, people who are against illegal immigration but for legal immigrants are also pushed away. People who see their friends/coworkers/family/etc have their spouses and children banned not because they're doing anything illegal but because the Trump admin just won't process them are able to look past the lies that it's just the "worst of the worst"
When the Trump admin continues to just straight make shit up all the time even in the Senate, people notice.
The Trump admin has repeatedly decided to appeal to the extremist online right who believes in some grand race war, instead of the independent and centrist Americans who make up the swing vote. And because they know what they're doing is unpopular among that crowd, they just lie instead. But asking the centrists and moderates to disbelieve what you are literally doing and bragging about doing doesn't work! Biden couldn't do it, and Trump can't do it now. The American people are not that stupid, and the progressives and postliberals should learn the lesson that just because you, an extremist partisan, can trick yourself into ignoring the world doesn't mean everyone else will.
Heck even Trump himself is less extremist than many of the people in his admin. He offers asylum to the Iranian woman's soccer team if Australia wouldn't take them, meanwhile the people below have pretty much completely cut off asylum and are even trying to deport people like this gal who was adopted by an American soldier, is Christian and has had her life here for 53 years. She would die in Iran just like the soccer players would, she's a Christian American to them!
When the moderate American hears criminals they're thinking people who do violent things. When they hear about illegal immigration, they want the focus on the antisocial and anti American ones. They don't want the sweet Nona across the street who got a speeding ticket 20 years ago removed to have her legal status revoked, and yet that sort of thing is what the administration is doing.
Here's some advice for the Biden and Trump admins and any future presidents to come. Instead of telling Americans you're doing popular thing Y and then doing unpopular things X, just do the Y thing! Tell your extremists to settle instead of trying to appeal to them.
This was an interesting claim, so I clicked. The post says "America after 100 million deportations" which is a bit shy of the
150 million nonwhites in the States. It's also a bit more than the estimated10ish illegal immigrants. One must imagine the white supremacist DHS poster to be mathematically challenged.Yeah this is what I get from ChatGPT at least to double check it
However including white Hispanics does bump it up to around 140 million apparently. It's impossible to say that it means this implication, but it's still an example of how extremist rhetoric is put out by the admin underlings. It's not just "the libs" you get with the Epic Trolling, tons of normies and moderates will see it too and update a little away from supporting you. Likewise with Laura Loomer's statement of feeding all the Hispanics in the country to crocodiles
The left wing extremists often push the moderates back with their own nonsense, but the ones in power tend to be the people most in danger if they can't control their rhetoric and behavior. Biden never learned this lesson, and it doesn't look like Trump intends to learn anytime soon. Even now while they are attempting to moderate out a little, it's only after all this extremist content already got pumped out and it still is upsetting the partisan fringes who are trying to lobby for more extremism.
The issue is that an administration that tries to be popular with the normies and moderates is an admin that the partisans don't really like that much. You have to be willing to upset your own group some knowing that they'll be loyal for you anyway and appeal to the centrists.
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Per the Census, if you exclude multiracial people who identify as both white and another race from "non-white" it goes down from 144 million to 113 million. Note that people who identify as both white and hispanic are already included in "white alone", counting all hispanics as non-white raises it to 160 million. So we're hypothesizing a DHS white-supremacist who thinks Barack Obama is white and then rounds from 113 to 100. I'm guessing the "dogwhistle for number of non-whites" claim was from someone who looked at a "whites in U.S." statistic that included multiracial people, falsely assumed it could be subtracted from the U.S. population to get the number of non-whites, and then thought 113 million was close enough.
Presumably the actual explanation is that "100 million" is a big round number chosen without any reference to actual statistics as a hyperbolic way of saying "more deportations good". It could say "1 Billion Deportations" and the meaning would be the same. Also I very much doubt that accusations of twitter dogwhistles are having much impact on people's opinions on the Trump administration at this point.
Damn it, I'll bite.
Is he not? He's the son of a black (absent) Nigerian father and a white mother. He was raised by her, his grandparents, and for a time an Indonesian stepfather. He has not, so far as I can make out, any experience at all of his father's culture or homeland. He was not raised 'typically' black as the majority of African-Americans were (Michelle was very important to him as being authentically African-American background and able to introduce him to that).
If you can be black with one white parent, why can't you be white with one black parent, if your upbringing was functionally white as a white child?
(The above is not seriously meant).
Because despite both political sides complaining that it's stupid (with different reasoning), the One Drop Rule seems as powerful as ever.
By that rule, we already had a black President: Warren Harding.
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I joked in 2012 that we hadn't really had a black president until Obama got reelected, as the first term only gave us half of one.
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