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Thats a roundabout way of saying progressive white women are Karens, but there’s basically two roles progressivism allows for women- bimbos and Karens. For whatever reason progressive women of colour are more likely to pick the former and progressive white women almost always pick the latter. Thé attempts at divorced aunt role progressive women(eg Marianne williamson) have crashed and burned, that’s a conservative woman role now(eg Lauren Boebert).
Karens to me are women who try to enforce a consensus, rule, or law in a very stereotypical, annoying and counterproductive way.
Progressive white women don't quite fit that mold for me, but they do fit some of these.
Progressive white women are trying very hard to enforce a consensus in a very stereotypical and annoying way, however.
Progressive white women are trying to impose and enforce a new consensus, whereas I see Karens as enforcing an old or legacy consensus. That's the primary distinction I should've made clear in my last comment.
The distinction is erased once you consider that establishment means old/legacy more or less by definition.
(This also describes how the progressive -> conservative pipeline functions, though they don't call themselves that for reasons that have a lot to do with the 1960s 'establishment should never call itself establishment' paradigm than anything else.)
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Speaking as someone in the environment I'm pretty sure the term "Karens" came from (retail), they tend to think they're enforcing an old or legacy consensus, but that consensus is essentially hallucinatory; the social fabric is in tatters and they all have fragmented personal ideas of how things are supposed to be.
Yep. Karens seem to make up the consensus as they go along, and fully believe that their headcanon is the Right and Proper way of doing things.
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