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Anyone play Blue Prince? Maybe I'm just in a Backroomsy mood, but I heard good things and it looks intriguing.

Had it heavily recommended to me, but I bounced off within the first five minutes. Should probably give it another try.

I love it, solidly in my games pantheon. Zealous recommendation to all.

Reposting some things I've said about it before:

It's the pinnacle of most of the genres it's attached to, a masterpiece in almost the traditional sense (one very competent guy polished it for 8 years, it's a completely realized coherent vision), and very fun.

Probably 15-20 hours to beat the part of the game that most people will stop at (having greatly enjoyed their time with it), and 100+ hours to optionally go beyond that if you still don't want to put it down.

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Probably 15-20 hours to beat the part of the game that most people will stop at (having greatly enjoyed their time with it)

Absolutely. It's a great game until you're trying to get the sledgehammer, metal detector, garden key, workshop, AND a bit of luck on room placement (IIRC that was a real challenge I beat once...then my computer crashed and lost it and I couldn't repeat it).

I maintain that the supposed RNG problem is a skill issue. As a general thing you should be keeping like a priority queue of theories and start each run flexibly. If you start trying for one particular thing every time too early in the game yeah that'll probably get frustrating. Later on there are RNG mitigations that should let you get just about whatever you want on most runs.

(note to Testing123: the supposed RNG problem is not something that usually overfrustrates even casual players in the "main" part of the game most people enjoy; it's a later-game thing)

Crashes are brutal though. I never had one in Blue Prince, but a bad one killed Subnautica for me.

As a general thing you should be keeping a priority queue of theories and start each run flexibly, but also there are RNG mitigations that should eventually let you get just about whatever you want on most runs.

I was running about half a dozen theories by the time I quit, and had only managed to check (not progress or confirm) a couple of them in my last few runs. The problem with the coat check (and other mitigations, IIRC) is that they help you with one theory, and not always all that well. Using the above example, I could either save the garden key (a rare item), or combine and save the power hammer. That reduces the requirements to garden key/coat check/room placement, or to sledgehammer/metal detector/work shop/coat check/room placement, which still isn't that easy.

Having watched bits of a few streamers' playthroughs, skillful/optimizing drafting is rare, but the biggest key to managing the RNG.

At the stage of the game where the thing you're talking about was relevant to me, I was getting the garden key probably every 2nd or 3rd run, and then when I incidentally got the other stuff I went for it. I rarely used the coat check since as a dead end it was almost always bad drafting (one of the main principles of good drafting is that openings are a resource, and probably the most important one).

(again to Testing123, just to emphasize: most people play fully through the part of the game most people natually and satisfiedly stop at, without having had an unfun problem about this)

I was getting the garden key probably every 2nd or 3rd run...

That's a bit higher than I remember, but not too far off.

, and then when I incidentally got the other stuff I went for it.

Let's call it a 1/3 chance for the key and 1/3 for the rest, for a 1/9 chance of it being available in a given run. Running six theories at once (of the same difficulty and assuming independence) gives you (1 - 1/9) ^ 6 = 49.3% chance of a wasted run assuming sufficiently-good play, which feels about right. Add in a few missed opportunities and a run of bad luck, and I dropped the game.

(again to Testing123, just to emphasize: most people play fully through the part of the game most people natually and satisfiedly stop at, without had having an unfun problem about this)

Yeah, it's good up to Room 46.

49.3%

You know what, that could even be right. I just really liked the drafting game. But even on the wrong side of that, you can always move at least something forward, even if it's "just" a meta-resource like stars or allowance or a Conservatory appearance, which snowball and make the mechanical side of the game much easier later.

This is an important aspect of the RNG mitigation I keep talking about.

I will report that I hated RNG before it was cool getting to room 46. After I reached that milestone I went to look what I was missing and for how many hours that took me I:

-never saw the wrench

-managed to get library only 1 time and never even knew that book shop existed

-managed to do chess puzzle only once, because the queen-king rooms are a bitch to get in the same run

A lot of fans of the game calling it "skill issue", I simply know that the RNG and puzzles should not mix. @Testing123 - get the Order of The Sinking Star.

This game is only playable with mods to improve speed of actions and removal of stupid and unnecessary RNG system.

Big fan, I think its a great game. The only downside is that it has zero replayability. A large part of that is because you are pretty much required to take notes. Many of the puzzles are complex, and require several different rooms, in different configurations to solve, or even to get the requisite information to solve. Due to the RNG nature of the room spawns it requires several days to get that to happen, meaning you pretty much need to take notes. There are also several long term puzzles that require knowledge from throughout the game, so unless you have a eidetic memory, yeah take notes.

But I probably put a 100 or so hours into it between different modes and solving it to a level that I think is at least 90% completed. I think I got the final ending but the game is constructed in a way that it is kind of hard to tell.

I think I got the final ending but the game is constructed in a way that it is kind of hard to tell

Say where you got to (in spoiler tags) and I'll tell you

Ending: Past all the doors in the tunnel, there are 3 boxes, one has the blue prince book, one is empty, the other has a cutscene and a spiral

Extras:

  • I did all the throne stuff
  • Rune puzzles in the Sanctum

Not the end

Bespoke hints available on request

I assume it has something to do with the book tinting? Looking through my notes, that seems to be the only puzzle I knowingly had left. I got that I needed to use the watering can with distillery water on books from the library Looks like I never got around to doing it when I hit what I thought was the ending.

Yup

I've played it. The puzzle part is great, but at some point, the roguelike walking around the estate part starts to hobble the appeal. I gave up on it somewhere at 70-75% total completion, after realizing how much busywork coaxing out the next set of clues was going to take.

If you don't mind parts where you know what to do, but actually doing it requires getting the correct rooms with RNG even with all the RNG mitigation available, taking an hour or more just to set up, then you're going to love it. As it stands, I merely liked it.

There's like... I don't think it's a spoiler, but there's a library room, and suppose you want to read a particular book. Tough luck, you have to check it out on a library form first, and then you get to read it the next time you roll a library, which is normally only in the next run at the soonest.

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