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Culture War Roundup for the week of April 24, 2023

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If it's true the Grossberg lawsuit is the reason for Tucker's firing - (there's also a LA Times story that Rupert thought Tucker's 1/6 coverage might get them in trouble), it proves that the Right needs to learn that yes, you can probably make "cancellable" statements about minorities in a college-educated conservative-leaning workplace, because any minorities who work in such a place aren't going to be upset about it or they'll just agree.

OTOH, making jokes about which female Governor candidate you'd rather have sex with is likely to upset even otherwise quite conservative women at that said workplace, because even in a right-wing space to the right of much of the nation, the median conservative woman is still going to be upset about openly sexual comments like that. 1960's/1970's feminism - aka, I can have my own job, financial independence, not getting fired for getting pregnant, and freedom from open sexism in the workplace is basically believed by 90% of women in the US.

The Right needs to learn this, or they'll keep ending up in the same place.

And where are we going to be in another few decades?

The Right needs to learn that 2010s trans activism - Trans Women Are Women, respect people’s pronouns, etc - is believed by 90% of people even in a conservative workplace.

Someone needs to put their foot down.

Someone needs to put their foot down.

Are you defending people's right to discuss which governor you'd most want to have sex with in the workplace? I don't think that's ever been an acceptable topic. You could probably get away with it in small workplaces where you're joking with friends and it'd never leak, but I think it'd pretty much always cause controversy if it was leaked.

Yes absolutely. That's a normal, fun conversation for adults to have.

No it is not. It is completely degenerate and not a suitable thing to discuss with others. Bodily functions are generally something we keep to ourselves, no different to how we don't announce whether we're going to do a Number 1 or a Number 2 every time we excuse ourselves to visit the toilet. I'd lose respect for someone who brought such a topic up even in private.

Your society is oversexed to an extreme degree, but because a lot of the overt sexuality agrees with the standard hetero paradigm Westerners (even conservative ones) are content to let it pass. However when you get displays of Queer sexuality that are if anything less intense than the Hetero ones seen as completely unremarkable there is an outrage by the conservatives about societal decay.

Physician, heal thyself!

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Bodily functions are generally something we keep to ourselves, no different to how we don't announce whether we're going to do a Number 1 or a Number 2 every time we excuse ourselves to visit the toilet.

LOL. In coarse (and generally all-male, though not always) company "I've got to take a shit" or "I've got to piss like a race horse" are perfectly acceptable ways to excuse oneself to visit the toilet. It's only in overly-refined company that such things are considered rude.

However when you get displays of Queer sexuality that is if anything less intense than the Hetero ones

Saying that drag queen story hour is less intense than anything is pretty rich.

But sure, I'll bite the bullet. It's a fair trade. I will fund drag queen story hour, I will hand out fliers, I will work the concession stand, if it means we stop jumping down people's throats and threatening lawsuits for every little joke and off-color comment they make.

Gay, straight, I don't care, whatever. I just wish everyone would stop having such a stick up their ass about everything all the time.

DQSH doesn't even need to be sexual if done in a certain way, the same way that nudity doesn't need to be sexual. Two people passionately kissing though is definitely sexual.

I maintain that DQSH is less inherently sexualised than a man and a woman in skimpy swimsuits kissing. The latter though is fine to show to 10 year olds on TV/Netflix and completely normalised, but the former is a massive travesty according to modern western "conservatives".

Ideally I would have none of them, but to get "your rules applied fairly" we need both.

One is normal and needed to propagate the species whereas the other is abnormal and lessens the propagation.

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If this be degeneracy, make the most of it.

a) You're not blue collar

b) I don't even believe you.