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Culture War Roundup for the week of September 11, 2023

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One matches the ballistics of the murder of Joe.

Ballistics matching is pseudoscientific nonsense.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-field-of-firearms-forensics-is-flawed/%3famp=true

Ok. There is one gun. It matches John's serial # and has the same bullets as were used to kill Joe. In fact, the magazine is missing the exact number of shots that were taken at the scene. And this particular bullet company stamps batches, and its the same batch as those that killed Joe.

He's still guilty. He probably is without the gun for most juries.

According to the guidelines, sufficient agreement is the condition in which the comparison “exceeds the best agreement demonstrated between tool marks known to have been produced by different tools and is consistent with the agreement demonstrated by tool marks known to have been produced by the same tool.”

Fucking what?! We've been putting people in jail based on this shit?

PS if you want to link the article without Google's amp nonsense, click the share icon at the very top of the page on the right (you might have to scroll down a bit to get it to drop down, but it's designed to be at the top of the page no matter where you are in the article.)

I'm aware, I was just in a rush combined from "Someone's being wrong on the internet" and "there's 10 patients I need to see after I leave the shitter" haha. Amp is cancer.

Lol I figured you would know, but I was compelled to respond by the slight chance you didn't and my loathing of amp.

Burn pattern and bite mark analysis are similarly bullshit. Ditto psychological profiling, but no points for that one. Given the pattern, it's likely that other aspects of forensic science are bunk as well.

Wow, here's my daily redpill. You're saying all those cop shows don't accurately predict the process of law enforcement? :'(

From what I gathered from this article, they didn't show ballistic matching was "nonsense", only that it doesn't have the rigor expected of the scientific method.

They provide an example of forensics not classifying "inconclusive" reports as errors. However, I agree with the forensics here. If you look at ballistic data and say "I can't tell for sure Joe was shot from this gun", that's not an error, that's working exactly as intended.

Justice isn't an exact science, in general.

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