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Culture War Roundup for the week of September 11, 2023

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I disagree, some industries have short term bottlenecks but medium term they can hire and train.

And yes I will stick with its stealing. It violates market principles.

This wont be true in many locations. Lost of autoworker jobs are located in mediocre areas and yet require decent intelligence to even perform the tasks. Getting average IQ people to relocate to work in a factory in the middle of nowhere at a workplace that just fired everyone for demanding a raise is a short and long term problem. The genius of the original locations of these places is they sopped up labor that was bleeding out of farms that were increasingly mechanized (fewer workers per acre) while also having high fertility. That's not nearly as true anymore, there aren't all sorts of white boys pouring out of farms that need semiskilled work.

Or you just build a new factory, hire people there, and then shut down the prior one…

That is a waste of capital, if you can avoid it you should. If an economy can avoid it, it should craft labor rules to.

Building factories anywhere near population centers is almost impossible in the US.

Depends on which population center, honestly. Dallas-Fort Worth has new factories opening semi-regularly.

True! Texas and Florida seem to be the exception it’s pretty cool what they’ve managed to do down there.

It is a government enforced quasi cartel. Cartels are the sine qua non of anti competitive behavior except for the labor carve out. It is really bad policy and we don’t need to resort to spherical cows.

That’s just like your opinion. If it costs the average consumer money it feels like stealing to me.

Ok so you don’t like my frame. It doesn’t change what unions do which is theft. They don’t abide by market forces. If you want to propose something similar I will agree it’s theft.

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Ok, so I'm not a big fan of modern unions, but theft? Really?

You aren't entitled to a particular product. If you want something made by non-union labor, that's an option. Go buy from a different company.

So it’s theft by my definition. Sorry you don’t like my frame but using government mandated force to make others poorer well is theft.

You seem ignorant of the massive government thumb on the scale for unions. Companies are forced to negotiate with a union. Can you think of any other situation where an unwilling party is forced to negotiate in “good faith” and can be heavily fined if the government determines otherwise? Hell, for a long time companies were forced to allow union organizers onto their property to agitate for unionization.

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Ok then remove there government protections.

I guarantee if that happens the UAW wouldn’t exists.

Almost all unions require government intervention to exists because they violate market forces. UAW wouldn’t exists without government protection.

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