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Israel-Gaza Megathread #1
This is a megathread for any posts on the conflict between (so far, and so far as I know) Hamas and the Israeli government, as well as related geopolitics. Culture War thread rules apply.
Does anyone have any good commentary and/or news Twitter/blog accounts (either partisan or ‘neutral’)? Reddit removes everything, and though you can kind of get an idea of what’s happening by constantly refreshing ‘new’ on /r/2ndYomKippurWar (which seems to be the main sub at least from the Israeli side) it’s still garbage and is mainly people asking “what’s happening” and others saying shit they just made up.
There really isn’t one single source where updates are being posted. Definitely makes me nostalgic for the days where a Reddit live thread (not the “live” thing the Reddit company tried to make, but the honest to god organic “live” thing) would pop up seemingly within seconds of any major global news happening.
That community largely moved to 4chan from 2016-2020ish, and now a lot of it has moved to individual telegram channels, and accounts on twitter. As usual, it takes a bit of time to get up to speed on the culture of the people posting so you can filter what’s real and fake, what’s trolling, the in jokes etc.
As a side/meta note: something really changed around 2016; at least on Reddit it was related to the_donald routinely taking over the front page of the website. This meant a lot more heavy handed moderation, and more of a top down management approach to the way people are allowed to have discussions with each other online. This sort of moderator micromanagement culture seems to have spread to a lot of other communities; I see the same behavior on Facebook groups, certainly here on this forum, etc. things will be deleted and the users banned for trying to discuss things in a way the mods don’t like. This makes the sort of organic discussions which lead to really valuable stuff like live information sharing impossible. A serious loss for the internet in my opinion.
Your best bet if you want to get good up to date information at this point really is twitter, but it will take a lot of work to find accounts, aggressively follow related accounts, prune that following list, verify what they’re saying, and build an internal heuristic.
This account retweets a lot of good (and a lot of garbage) stuff: https://twitter.com/EndGameWW3 and might be a good starting point if you want to try and find stuff to follow.
Right now as of around noon to my local time Northern Israel is under drone attack (maybe), and these guys are retweeting a lot of live info. Could be a good, very noisy time to find some possible accounts to follow. Again: buyer beware. A lot of this stuff is shit.
As a side/meta note: something really changed around 2016
I think many people have long felt this. Thanks to Elon Musk open sourcing Twitter's internal correspondence with American government agencies it became clear that it wasn't just "Eternal September" type nostalgia but a very real and coordinated change.
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It really is interesting seeing how many times the "paranoid conspiracy theories" turn out to be correct in the modern day. People on 4chan were talking about twitter being compromised by the feds for years, but there are still people talking about how the verified facts of what happened are just tinfoil hat conspiracy theories, and nobody seems to update their credibility estimations as a result.
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Does anyone have any good commentary and/or news Twitter/blog accounts (either partisan or ‘neutral’)? Reddit removes everything, and though you can kind of get an idea of what’s happening by constantly refreshing ‘new’ on /r/2ndYomKippurWar (which seems to be the main sub at least from the Israeli side) it’s still garbage and is mainly people asking “what’s happening” and others saying shit they just made up.
There really isn’t one single source where updates are being posted. Definitely makes me nostalgic for the days where a Reddit live thread (not the “live” thing the Reddit company tried to make, but the honest to god organic “live” thing) would pop up seemingly within seconds of any major global news happening.
That community largely moved to 4chan from 2016-2020ish, and now a lot of it has moved to individual telegram channels, and accounts on twitter. As usual, it takes a bit of time to get up to speed on the culture of the people posting so you can filter what’s real and fake, what’s trolling, the in jokes etc.
As a side/meta note: something really changed around 2016; at least on Reddit it was related to the_donald routinely taking over the front page of the website. This meant a lot more heavy handed moderation, and more of a top down management approach to the way people are allowed to have discussions with each other online. This sort of moderator micromanagement culture seems to have spread to a lot of other communities; I see the same behavior on Facebook groups, certainly here on this forum, etc. things will be deleted and the users banned for trying to discuss things in a way the mods don’t like. This makes the sort of organic discussions which lead to really valuable stuff like live information sharing impossible. A serious loss for the internet in my opinion.
Your best bet if you want to get good up to date information at this point really is twitter, but it will take a lot of work to find accounts, aggressively follow related accounts, prune that following list, verify what they’re saying, and build an internal heuristic.
This account retweets a lot of good (and a lot of garbage) stuff: https://twitter.com/EndGameWW3 and might be a good starting point if you want to try and find stuff to follow.
This is another good one: https://twitter.com/sentdefender
Right now as of around noon to my local time Northern Israel is under drone attack (maybe), and these guys are retweeting a lot of live info. Could be a good, very noisy time to find some possible accounts to follow. Again: buyer beware. A lot of this stuff is shit.
I think many people have long felt this. Thanks to Elon Musk open sourcing Twitter's internal correspondence with American government agencies it became clear that it wasn't just "Eternal September" type nostalgia but a very real and coordinated change.
It really is interesting seeing how many times the "paranoid conspiracy theories" turn out to be correct in the modern day. People on 4chan were talking about twitter being compromised by the feds for years, but there are still people talking about how the verified facts of what happened are just tinfoil hat conspiracy theories, and nobody seems to update their credibility estimations as a result.
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