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Wellness Wednesday for October 11, 2023

The Wednesday Wellness threads are meant to encourage users to ask for and provide advice and motivation to improve their lives. It isn't intended as a 'containment thread' and any content which could go here could instead be posted in its own thread. You could post:

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Does anyone have experience with "fear of childbirth"?

I've met several women in the last few years who have indicated that they don't intend to have children, and have cited this as the primary reason why - a dread of the actual physical process of childbearing and giving birth. This isn't something I remember hearing or reading about prior to the last few years. Is this an emergent phenomenon, or one which is increasing? Or is it just one which was never inside my bubble? Is it transient, or treatable? Do women commonly try to cure or overcome it, or is it perhaps a cover for other reasons?

I don't mean this question judgmentally. Everyone has the right to use their body as they think best. Just trying to gain insight.

I had this since I was a little girl. I don't think there's anything terribly strange about it; childbirth is an extremely painful and scary process. I don' t know that it was the main reason I didn't want to have children, but it was in the mix. When I decided I did want to have a child, it was because the pro reasons finally outweighed the cons.

I ended up having a natural birth. It was traumatic but I got through, though I wasn't interested in doing it again. A few months later, a friend of mine died in childbirth. Like I said, this shit is scary and it's pretty reasonable to be afraid of it.

Like I said, this shit is scary and it's pretty reasonable to be afraid of it.

It very well might be scary, but if you're numerically literate you shouldn't be afraid, not particularly so at least.

And for anyone scared of natural deliveries, just go for a c-sec, assuming you can afford the expense. Let's hope artifical wombs come online in time to matter, so we can skip the moderate incapacitation of a woman for a good chunk of a year pregnancy represents.

It's funny - there are many women who are offended by the very idea of artificial wombs, to the point where I think it's a minority position to be ok with them. I have a hard time understanding that.

Well, I'm an ardent transhumanist, and a lack of vocal support for that position from the teeming masses confirms my suspicions that I'm not psychologically normal, without the usual connotations of that word.

There are plenty of IVF babies conceived from baby batter in a petridish, wouldn't it be easier on them not to force them to get evicted in the first place?

Then again, people are vain, and if the process is primarily advocated as a solution to stretch marks from pregnancy, it can capture some of the colossal cosmetics budget.