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Culture War Roundup for the week of October 16, 2023

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My grandfather is probably more representative of the median IRL white nationalist than anyone you see on Twitter, and his opinion is that we should sterilize welfare recipients, criminals, and single mothers to keep from becoming a majority black country.

His numbers are probably not accurate. But the sentiment does exist.

I realize this is kind of besides the point, but it's pretty funny to be worried about the US becoming a majority black country. Currently the white and black fertility rates are nearly equal and a higher percentage of immigrants are white than black (though most immigrants are neither). You could make the case that the US will eventually become majority Hispanic (they have the highest fertility rate of any major group and also a high immigration rate), but majority black would require some pretty extreme changes in current trends.

100,000,000 Africans will immigrate to the United States. I'm calling it now.

You’d need a major liberalization in legal immigration policy for that and that’s unlikely if the Dems don’t have 60 seats in the senate, which is very unlikely.

Hundreds of thousands of immigrants have flooded across the southern border this year. We have documented evidence that a great many of them are Africans. Nobody is stopping them from coming here. Why do you believe that the immigration status quo is insufficient to allow that number to balloon to the numbers @omfalos predicted? Who or what is going to stop all those Africans from coming here, without any change to the current formal immigration regime?

We have the data on those that are stopped by CBP at the border. The top five nationalities (as of stoppings in September 2023) are Venezuelans, Mexicans, Guatemalans, Hondurans and Colombians. Most black illegal migrants are Haitian, not African. Tiny numbers of Senegalese have attempted to migrate illegally, along with some other West Africans, but the US is usually able to close these loopholes as they pressure Latin American countries into tightening tourist visa restrictions for African passport holders. The challenge is overland crossings of Central American natives, and Venezuelans.

To note that Columbians, Mexicans, and Venezuelans are all by Latin American standards pretty white and are all by American immigrant standards pretty eager to assimilate and intermarry with locals. The real long term effect from this wave of immigration is that the median white American in the future will look more Italian and less Norwegian.

The mostly European upper crust are not the ones crossing the southern border. I think the long term effect will be an enormous underclass, high crime and general decay surrounding a few upper middle class enclaves. Basically what they have in South America today.

You can look at pictures from detention centers or border patrol and it's obvious that they aren't the Guillermo del Torro phenotype. They don't look anything like people from Italy or Spain.

It's unlikely even if the Dems have 60 Senate seats. I'd expect some liberalization on that front, but probably not too much beyond what we had in the Bush/Obama years. Additionally, liberalization probably wouldn't favor any particular country, so while we'd see more immigration over all, most of that would be from people who are already coming. You'd have to liberalize immigration from Africa and Africa only to have any chance of achieving a black majority.

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