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PaperclipPerfector  6mo ago (text post)   2875 thread views

Friday Fun Thread for October 27, 2023

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SBF has decided to take the stand in his own defense. I haven't been following the trial much (federal courts do not allow cameras in the courtroom), but this seems like a big mistake. Dude couldn't handle a Twitter space with Coffeezilla. How is he supposed to handle a federal prosecutor on cross-examination?

There's no way his lawyer advised him to do this, but he does have a constitutional right to present evidence in his own defense, and nobody - not even his own lawyer - can stop him from going up there and telling "his truth."

I expect some hilarious quotes on Twitter by the end of the day.

At what point can an American lawyer throw up their hands and abandon their client? Can they even do that in the first place?

Yes, but it's a call for the judge to make. From the perspective of the law, everyone is entitled to competent and zealous defense in court - losing your lawyer halfway through a trial gives the defendant a strong case to appeal or even move for a mistrial. The same goes for attempts by foolish defendants to fire their lawyers midtrial or defend themself in court. Accordingly, you need a really good reason, and having an obviously guilty or difficult client doesn't cut it - they're entitled to representation too.

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