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PaperclipPerfector  1mo ago (text post)   2073 thread views

Friday Fun Thread for March 1, 2024

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So how many of you were at Aella’s birthday party?

I don't get the fascination with her. At all.

I just learned her real identity a few days ago after following some threads from the guy doxxing eigenrobot, realized I'd already heard of her father separately, and I think now my reaction to whenever I hear her mentioned, after whatever the newest escapade is, is just going to be feeling horrified that raising a child can turn out that badly.

I don't have daughters and always wanted one but sometimes imagine this kind of thing and wonder how I'd react. Not well, I'd imagine.

There is a reason honor-killing exists.

There is also reason why the "having a daughter is the ultimate and final cuck" copypasta has the power it has, that most men feel a sense of existential dread at the thought of having a daughter, and many #girldads find ways to cope and not think about it (especially if they don't have sons as a source of distraction and compensation).

Another example would be Mayli/Amelia Wang (real name: Kelly Baltazar), father was a Goldman Sachs vice president. She did hardcore porn immediately after turning 18, including Facial Abuse. Her father tried continuously to throw his balance sheet at getting her videos disappeared off the internet, but was not completely successful. Then he died.

Her fun little excursion doing things like rimming some tattooed greaseballs, vomiting on their cocks, and getting facialed can still be viewed on sites like Spankbank.

I suppose, coming back to this topic, that the question is whether you’d rather have a failson or a whore daughter. My sense is that the latter is more preventable than the former, although I’m actually not sure.

Unfortunately, I think there's strong evidence that, until the 20th century in the West, the overwhelming majority of sons were failsons.

The stat is common enough that I won't take the time to cite it, but something like 70-80% of human ancestors are female. This makes all the sense in the world when you think about hypergamy especially before the true institutionalization of monogamous marriage (and, in many parts of the world, including the west, its continuation today). Warlords and kings ffffuuuccckkedddd and most soldiers, peasants, military-age-males did not.

The fact of the matter is most men in history failed to reproduce. Now, you can make some arguments (with which I would agree) that that doesn't necessarily make them automatic failures. If they led honorable and virtuous lives, if they died fighting for a worthwhile cause etc. But inherent in all of that is a lot of value judgements that could shift based on the viewer. Something like passing on your genes would probably be close to a human universal "he done good!' criteria. I am open to disagreement here. I'm just trying to establish as objective and discrete threshold as possible for fail/urenot-failure.

I lean towards the idea that having a whore daughter at least feels intrinsically worse because of the inherent value placed in women. Things like dowry's exist across hundreds of cultures for a reason - sexual and reproductive access is important.

But there may be a little trick here. How many women, across history, have a "ho phase" followed by decades of monogamy and legitimately good performance as a mother? You can adjust "ho phase" sensitivity by time and culture - anything from "Mom spent some time as a ... waitress ... on the sunset strip in the 1970s" all the way to "Lady Kingsbury-Hampton-Bottomtooth once spent an unchaperoned weekend in Marseille. London society was quite atwitter!" The point is if we're looking to designate "whore daughter" with some sort of discrete event or events the same way we are for failson --- you might have a higher number of qualifying applicants than you'd like.

Porn and OnlyFans are a different spectacle altogether. People do things in private, enjoy them or don't enjoy them, and adjust their behavior and values accordingly. When you broadcast intimate acts to literally the entire internet'ed world it really smacks of a lack of awareness or a deeply narcissistic tendency that, to me, is far more worrisome than the dick coefficient of your life. And here's where I'll beat my favorite deceased equine; the sexual revolution made whore-dom cool and passed it on to young women utterly incapable of making sound judgement calls on actions that will impact them for the rest of their life. I'm empathetic to a teen girl who is angsty with her Goldman Sachs dad (yo, but, like, can you maybe slip him my resume lol?). If she decides to go off for a few months with the town badass (barbed wire tattoos, somehow got sent both to and home from boot camp, "knows a guy who can get us illegal fireworks") that's fine. Or, rather, that used to be fine. Now it's ... not enough? Now "sexual expression" is .... FacialAbuse (dot) com (don't google it, save your soul).

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