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07mk
50m ago
When it comes to celebrating murder of people one dislikes, given that that's slightly more pleasurable and addicting than heroin, I feel like the causality is backwards. The reason the commenter doesn't do it anyway is because they've bit the bullet.
sun_the_second
could survive a COD lobby and a gay furry discord server
50m ago
According to the people on the left, their enemies already have no principles and no qualms about killing them, support for violence or not - the only reason why there's no open Holocaust on the streets is that for one reason or the other directly exterminating the left is not currently expedient for the left's enemies. So I doubt "live by the sword" will deter them.
MadMonzer
Epstein Files must have done something really awful for so many libs to want him released.
52m ago
Banks are like power and water utilities. Its not something you cut off in a modern society without very good reasons.
Plenty of people get power or water cut off for non-payment, which falls a long way short of organised crime and terrorism. Plenty of people have credit bad enough that they can only get power with a prepayment meter. The equivalent is a basic bank account which can't be overdrawn (and therefore doesn't come with a cheque book, only a debit card - with the shift to zero floor limits the number of places that debit card can't be used is now quite low). You can't run a business with a basic bank account, and you can't run a business with electricity off a prepayment meter - in both cases this is both against the rules (the social contract that says regulated businesses can't shun dirty poors only extends to consumer services, not business ones) and impractical given the lack of credit.
The vast majority of business debankings are for credit control reasons, both of the "new information means this business is no longer considered creditworthy" and of the "new information means that this business is of a type which we do not bank because we lack the special skills needed to assess its creditworthiness" types.
The level of protection the banking system offers to normies who are victims of dodgy businesses (including but by no means limited to credit card chargebacks) is only possible because the system tries to keep dodgy businesses out.
FiveHourMarathon
Wawa Nationalist
53m ago
In any case, it is hardly unsurprising for even extremely sophisticated, highly intelligent investors to be duped, seduced (platonically) by charismatic con men and adventurers for fortune, and Epstein was both.
Do we have other examples of billionaires signing over power of attorney to their finance guys?
FiveHourMarathon
Wawa Nationalist
55m ago
It's absolutely amazing to me that you quoted my question, then regurgitated the same talking points I said I wasn't convinced by. This explanation just papers over all the weird stuff by saying "IDK he was really charismatic or something."
But unless Epstein was literally the most charismatic man of all time, there's a lot of charismatic people out there, but Epstein's arrangements were extraordinary. There's no other examples I've ever seen of a billionaire handing over PoA to his finance guy, when it comes up the normal tone industry people use about it is that it's shocking and they never saw anyone else do that. Maybe Wexner was gay, but once again, we don't have any other examples of wealthy gay men getting conned at this scale by a man who, however handsome, didn't even live with Wexner and must have been much too busy to schtupp him very often.
You just pass over every extraordinary and weird aspect of Epstein's life by saying he was charismatic or gay. Ok, there are a lot of charismatic gay men out there, yet there's only one Epstein.
This reminds me a lot of Reza Aslan's biography of Jesus, Zealot, in that Aslan constantly used historical accounts of other Jewish messiahs and assumed Jesus must have been exactly the same as them. Except that, you know, Jesus was different. You can tell because his name and his likeness are everywhere, and the other Jewish messiahs are mostly only remembered in reference to Jesus.
sun_the_second
could survive a COD lobby and a gay furry discord server
55m ago
I do not think it is because being a father means nothing to them. Rather that, because Kirk is their enemy, he is worse for being a father - either he created more evil children or his innocent children were forced to live with an evil father.
ArjinFerman
Tinfoil Gigachad
56m ago
Like I said, I'm taking bets. This isn't based on evidence, this isbthe left psy-opping itself in a desperate attempt to deflect responsibility. Notice how you had to gloss over the "catch this, fascist", and invert "bella ciao" to even make it make some semblance of sense, and they also doxxed a completely innocent man in an attempt to prove the killer donated to Trump.
The closest analogy to this is Nick Sandman, when you lot desided his smirk is somehow racist. Once it's proven beyond a shadow of a doubt he's a lefty, we'll come back to pretending none of this has ever happened, and that he's somehow not representative of the left.
haroldbkny
1hr ago
That's how my wife describes her knowledge of him as well, didn't know him, did know Turning Point. I personally had never heard of Turning Point, myself.
sun_the_second
could survive a COD lobby and a gay furry discord server
1hr ago
Everyone is happy to bite the bullet of being canceled for things they don't do anyway. It's called Just Being a Decent Person.
MadMonzer
Epstein Files must have done something really awful for so many libs to want him released.
1hr ago
This is too dank to believe, and I don't believe it, but it is what my Twitter feed wants me to believe, and I'm sharing it on that basis.
The combination of the messages on the cartridges is best explained by Robinson being deep into gamer culture
- The sequence of arrows is a reference to Helldivers 2
- "Ciao Bella" can be a number of things, but one of them is a HoI4 meme.
- "If you read this you are gay" is general chan culture
- "Notices, bulges what's this" is an online furry culture meme which has also spread into general chan culture
Where does this end up? If Robinson was deep into HoI4 online culture, his browser history will be full of both Wehraboo and Antifa material. And if he got into the chans or the other online cesspools where large number of gamers hang out, then they are going to find all the bad stuff. So the people who want to believe that he was a leftist will find enough evidence to believe that, the people who want to believe he was a groyper will find enough evidence to believe that, and the people (like me) who want to believe that he was just a Thomas Crooks-style very online loser who shot a politician because in the current year it is more memetically badass than shooting up a school will find enough evidence to believe that. So the assassination will become a super-scissor. And, to add insult to injury, a wholesome hobby that I and many other Motteposters enjoy a lot (namely Paradox grand strategy gaming) will become tied in the mind of normies to political violence.
ArjinFerman
Tinfoil Gigachad
1hr ago
She was always an economic-left / cultural-righ type. I don't think her views changed much at all outside of coming to certain unflattering conclusions about the state of the contemporary left.
And there’s where the core of liberalism lost the plot in thinking “groups don’t have rights, only individuals do.”
This isn't even true, which is even worse. In places like Canada (also just attempted in the UK) people in the right groups get differing sentences because of their alleged group-specific troubles
But I think the algorithmic Web 2.0 sites that have swallowed the internet have turned everything into a supposedly life and death struggle. It can't just be that a group of people whose interests you care about will have lives that are about 90% as good as they might have in a counterfactual world where your political tribe got everything they wanted, you need to catastrophize about that missing 10% of well-being, and make up outrages and scandals to justify hating the opposing side.
It's zero sum because people understand that it's at least theoretically possible to get all you want by appealing to rights without convincing the other side. So there's less incentive to be sensible.
The activists like Chase Strangio have done far more damage than any online crazy like Gretchen Felker-Martin. You can ignore crazies.
ThenElection
1hr ago
Isn't Bluesky federated? Can't people just leave and migrate their account to a different host if they don't like one's "no celebrating assassinations" rule?
shoe0nHead's reaction
I went and read all her tweets over the last few days. I really think the assassination genuinely shifted her political views and view of the current political climate. She seems quite distressed about the whole thing. Some of this would be because she is also a moderate influencer with a fairly large platform, who is married with kids. Many in that position (some on the left too) feel very vulnerable right now.
I think there's a large amount of people like shoe that thought a lot of the spicy takes and fascist labeling from the far left was just rhetorical larping. Now however it seems the radicals actually did drink the koolaid and see even moderate right wing influencers as goose stepping Hugo Boss enjoyers.
gattsuru
1hr ago
Corvos
1hr ago
you just give bigots like him loudspeakers and let them speak their mind
Broadly I agree with you - thus LiberalsOfTikTok but Milo didn’t get cancelled for being bigoted but for being much, much too open.
07mk
1hr ago
The most hilarious thing about this situation for me was that, for about a year preceding this, Milo's leftist critics kept trying to justify using violence against him in public speaking events because he had harmful opinions and such. Liberals kept pointing out both how evil that is and how counterproductive that is for shutting someone down. And, indeed, when Milo got got, it was entirely because he was given free speech with which to speak his mind and discredit himself in the eyes of enough people who supported him to get him shut down. Precisely as the liberals said would play out of you just give bigots like him loudspeakers and let them speak their mind.
Mantergeistmann
1hr ago
Wexner didn’t even ‘lose’ his or his clients’ money unlike the above, he just made less than he might otherwise have.
Isn't there some insane stat about how a vast majority of managed funds do worse than the S&P 500?
Magusoflight
1hr ago
We didn’t do it
And if we did, it’s no big deal
He liked guns so he deserved it anyway
^ pick one, seems to be the 3 main copes
Magusoflight
1hr ago
School shootings are artificially magnified and ironically the reason they continue is because we can’t stop talking about them
deadpantroglodytes
1hr ago
It's more accurate to say that your comment shows how the Oz comparison makes no sense.
(Though it is a useful heuristic for the ITT.)
ZanarkandAbesFan
1hr ago
Jan 6 will continue to be the premier example.
Jan 6th is fair to bring up, although I'm not sure it was any more violent in nature than many of the BLM riots or things like setting up CHAZ.
It will come up relatively frequently on gun/hunting forums or other conservative-dominated space where they feel they are 'in private'. I mean, shit, it comes up here from time to time.
Such forums have far smaller cultural reach than places like Reddit or even Bluesky. They also have essentially no representation among university departments and college campuses, which play a critical role in shaping the attitudes of young, politically-involved people. The point is that if you're a mentally-unstable, violently inclined individual, you know you're going to get far more widespread adulation and praise for killing a right-wing figure than a left-wing one.
When Tom Cotton calls for people to beat up pro-Palestinian protestors,
I googled "Tom Cotton Palestine protests" and what I found was him saying this:
"I’m saying that if people are trying to get to work or pick up their kids from school or take a sick kid to the doctor and you have pro-Hamas vigilantes blocking the streets, they should get out and move those people off the streets," Cotton said. “The police will get there eventually. But a lot of damage will be done in the meantime."
That seems pretty distant for saying they should be beaten up for the positions they hold.
or they laugh about a guy nearly beating Paul Pelosi to death, or they cheer for police brutality,
Do you have examples of prominent right-wingers doing either of this (for cases of unambiguous police brutality)?
When someone plows a truck into a crowd of protestors, they shrug and say "shouldn't have been standing there" (while laughing behind their hands).
Evidence? I'm not trying to be obtuse btw. I don't live in America and I don't particularly follow American news (90% of what I know about it I pick up from this website).
You mention not disassociating from the 20%, but for American* right-wingers the 20% includes much of their senior leadership.
I have the opposite impression. That 20% on the left includes celebrities, writers, academics, politicians and platforms like reddit. I don't see an equivalent on the right.
Crowstep
1hr ago
In the UK everyone from unemployed philisophy graduates to the children of millionaires are middle class, so that I guess. Although that's really just a weakness of our definitions than anything.
More usefully, my salary is more or less the exact median for the country, so middle income, although my parents earned more than me and my wife do.
Yes, in generally virtually none of the managed/hedge funds outperform the S&P 500, but thats not the point of most of them. Their point is to offer returns uncorrelated with how the S&P500 is doing, hence the term "hedge". In the long run, having a portion of your assests sufficiently diversified from the rest will return higher overall yields.
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