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Brgp12
2hr ago
Yeah the Culture is definitely a very small-l liberal society. The gender stuff jumps out the most in that sense, but to me it never comes off as making really political points - it just presents a post-scarcity society with super high levels of technology where doing whatever you want all the time is accepted.
To some extent I guess I'm just shoehorning my own beliefs into the books. It never struck me reading Player of Games that the market economy was the fundamentally bad thing about that society. The greed, hate, warlike nature, and as you point out, all the other - isms. But to read that as fundamentally leftist seems to need to to either connect these things to an anti-capitalist message (which I see the fans do a lot) or I guess just have knowledge of Banks intent - otherwise to me it just comes off as a crooked-timber-of-humanity sort of thing. That scene in Player of Games where they go through the slums of the city could just as easily have been some kind of failed socialist nightmare.
I'm guessing Banks was pretty vocal about his liberalism tho. I get annoyed by that stuff sometimes. People were talking about Watchmen here recently - to me Moore has such a silly take on his own character Rorschach!
SubstantialFrivolity
I'm not even supposed to be here today
2hr ago
You've got my vote. I hate when people don't pick up dog poop or return shopping carts. Gum would probably annoy me too, except I never see it out in the world.
self_made_human
Grippy socks, grippy box
3hr ago
What on earth is going on in that screenshot? I know Minecraft mod packs can get wild, but that's new.
dr_analog
top 1% of underdog fetishists
3hr ago
I admit personally I'm relatively skeptical of therapy in general. As I understand it, it doesn't really matter what therapeutic method you use the result are about the same, so probably most of the benefit comes from just having someone you can vent to who is empathetic, and won't judge or get bored.
What do you think of as therapy?
From time to time I ask Chat something like "my kid did this to his younger sister, even though he knows it's wrong and we've told him 100x what the consequences will be, what's the standard psychology take for what's going on?" or "my wife seems to get really frustrated by my not bringing the dishes up after I'm done with dinner even though I do it 9/10 times and when I don't it's because I got distracted; we split a ton of the housework so it's not like I loaf all day and she knows it, what are the top theories of mind around why she's losing her shit"
I find it more helpful than not.
self_made_human
Grippy socks, grippy box
3hr ago
Will he change his mind if someone presents a chess-focused LLM with a high ELO score?
We just had a certain somebody on this forum bring up current LLMs being bad at chess as an example. He even got an AAQC for it (one of the most bemusing ones every awarded).
I do not recall him acknowledging my point where I pointed out that I GPT 3.5 Turbo played at ~1800 ELO, and that the decline was likely because AI engineers made the eminently sensible realization that just about nobody is stupid enough to use LLMs to play chess. If they do, then the LLMs know how to use Stockfish, in the same way they can operate a calculator.
Pongalh
3hr ago
What is the relationship between attacking enthusiastic nerds specifically and trying to shed a reputation for mental illness?
This isn't a great comment, from a moderation perspective, but I'm now going to talk as a general user.
Freddie is seriously mentally ill. He's disclosed his struggle with bipolar disorder (and I seem to recall he had psychotic breaks). However, the views he espoused aren't exclusive to the mentally ill. God knows I would like to pin a diagnosis on someone like Gary Marcus, but being pugnacious and immune to evidence isn't actually in the DSM.
As far as I can tell, he does have 'aesthetic' reasons to object to transhumanist/rationalist viewpoints. He is woefully under-informed about modern AI, but so are most people. It is easy to demolish his arguments without needing to resort to ad hominem attacks. If he starts accusing OAI of wire-tapping his house (like Altman's sister), then this facet of his personality would be worth raising.
self_made_human
Grippy socks, grippy box
3hr ago
Thank you, I doubt I'll have time to venture that way again since I'm leaving soon, but I'll bookmark those for another trip!
Norf vs Souf is a fractal, recursive pattern, it seems, that applies even to Indian immigrants in Britain.
His behavior makes no damn sense to me, regardless of where we're at. We lived in the same city in India, even if he didn't grow up there. If this is a behavioral difference that generalizes to Scotland vs England, that's news to me.
Was it one of these trains that split in two? I travelled to Canterbury by one once, and even the natives were mildly confused.
I don't think so. Our original train was supposed to get us to Dover directly. This one took a parallel route, stopping at Ramsgate. Wasn't too hard to go to Dover from there, thankfully.
The next time I heard such curses from my wife was a week ago, when we were hiking in 35-degree heat.
Jesus. I would have turned back. Anything north of 27° rules out a hike for me. Even though the sun made a surprise appearance on this trip, it actually made the whole experience way more pleasant.
ControlsFreak
3hr ago
you did by arguing that the air force isn't an army because it uses aircraft
Point of fact, I didn't ever actually do that.
My determination was that because it was originally part of the Army it is therefore just another army separate from the Army for bureaucratic reasons.
...and then I asked about the clauses referring to "land and naval Forces". This was only like three comments ago; surely you haven't already forgotten how things went down.
4bpp
Now I am become a Helpful, Honest and Harmless Assistant, the destroyer of jobs
3hr ago
あい らいく ゆー。
かむ おーばー とぅ まい はうす えんど ふぁっく まい しすたー！
faceh
3hr ago
In other words, if your sample is just social media, then you're missing out on all the well-adjusted individuals who are keeping to themselves.
Yes, and indeed, in my social circle, the people who are actually keeping it together the best and who aren't basket cases tend to be the ones with the smallest social media footprint. I remain close friends with these ones.
But, uh, that ALSO tends to be correlated with "Got married relatively early" (before age 25) and "had kids" which is one hell of a major shift requiring one to hopefully become more mature. These folks were hitting their milestones 'on time' and usually had their lives in some kind of order at an earlier age.
I think even accounting for selection effects, I'm detecting a lot of women who hit some kind of crisis in their mid to late 20's and never fully moved on or recovered. In fact, that's often when they stop posting on social media altogether, because life has gone so badly for them they no longer want to publicize it. Hence, that spike in mental illness.
Me, I grew up kind of sheltered, but not bring my parent to an actual job interview sheltered
With Gen Z in general, but with, again, women in particular, there seems to be the double whammy of "taught to be afraid of almost everything" and yet "coddled and never forced to overcome actual challenges" that results in difficulty functioning in the uncertain and messy real world.
Which gets towards my original thesis: Women tend not to mature in their twenties, precisely because they're told on the one hand that the patriarchy is holding them back, many men want to hurt them, control them, that the world is completely slanted against them... AND they're given huge legs up for academics, employment, and general financial assistance.
At what point does your average woman need to gain maturity, if there's always some program or other that will render assistance if she finds herself facing difficulty, or there's always someone willing to take them in and shelter them from the consequences of their decisions?
And the upshot that women are actually less happy than they've been in decades.
The gap between how much assistance women are given, across the board, to succeed in life, and how dissatisfied they apparently are with how their lives are going seems to be at an all-time high. This tends to gel with the anectdotal observations I see, with women in particular having extreme difficulty getting their lives in order despite getting help from all sides, and complaining loudly that its not really their fault.
Which reads to me like they're still stuck in an adolescent mentality.
Do you work in inside sales? Mostly making a lighthearted joke, here. Maybe even healthcare or aviation?
Law. I do a lot of probate work, where someone's parents die and now the children are coming in to close out their final affairs and parcel out their estate.
That's when I sometimes run into the adult woman in her 40's or 50's who starts acting like an entitled brat and trying to boss all the other siblings around and/or acts like everyone else is out to get her/take away what she feels belongs to her, when there's no goddamn reason to do that. Stands out all the more when you've got 2-3 other siblings who are all well-adjusted, and they're saying "yeah we figured this would happen, she's always been like that."
Tends to make the whole process more cumbersome and frustrating (more money for me, though).
Huh. Uploading just the Patterns section of the HexBook webpage and disabling search on web looks better even on Grok3, though that's just a quick glance and I won't be able to test it for a bit.
EDIT: nope, several hallucinated patterns on Grok 3, including a number that break from the naming convention. And Grok4 can't have web search turned off. Bah.
orthoxerox
If you can read this, you're using a custom theme
3hr ago
I can't imagine anyone dating a teenager for the purpose of "simplicity." We can go all the way back to Big Ben Franklin and his advice on why it is better to have an affair with older women than with younger ones, among them:
This just means that neither of you are ephebophiles.
FtttG
3hr ago
I know, it's weird for a self-proclaimed Marxist to criticise others for being unrealistically utopian.
thrownaway24e89172
Death is the inevitable and only true freedom
4hr ago
No, no, and no respectively. And that wasn't how I made the determination, it was how you did by arguing that the air force isn't an army because it uses aircraft. My determination was that because it was originally part of the Army it is therefore just another army separate from the Army for bureaucratic reasons.
VoxelVexillologist
Multidimensional Radical Centrist
4hr ago
That is pretty impressive. Is it allowed to search the web? It looks like it might be. I think the canonical test I'm proposing would disallow that, but it is a useful step in general.
gattsuru
4hr ago
I don't want to speak on 'intelligence' or genuine reasoning or heuristics and approximations, but when it comes to going outside the bounds of their training data, it's pretty trivially possible to take an LLM and give a problem related to a video game (or a mod for a video game) that was well outside of its knowledge cutoff or training date.
I can't test this right now, it's definitely not an optimal solution (see uploaded file for comparison), and I think it misinterpreted the Evanition operator, but it's a question that I'm pretty sure didn't have an equivalent on the public web anywhere until today. There's something damning in getting a trivial computer science problem either non-optimal or wrong, especially when given the total documentation, but there's also something interesting in getting one like this close at all with such minimum of information.
FtSoA
4hr ago
With that paragraph you cite, I wonder how Freddie would feel if one swapped out "AI" with "Marxism."
DenpaEnthusiast
4hr ago
He probably means cheering. The Japanese message uses the loanword "live", which refers to special events like concerts, not regular live streams. You support concerts by showing up and cheering or clapping, and she's describing her birthday stream as a "horror live", so he's probably intending to watch the whole stream and spam emoji in chat whenever something noteworthy happens. This is pretty common behavior for concerts on YouTube.
FtSoA
4hr ago
There are many degrees of purity. Ultimately, one can always sacrifice more for the cause.
Scott seems to genuinely enjoy his life in terms of material comfort, in addition to his significant charitable giving. And the kidney.
So whatever the threshold is for diminishing returns on his charitable endeavors, he seems to be on the sustainable side.
wrote that one should keep climbing the tower.
I think you actually managed to interpret that exactly backwards. In addition to misapplying it contextually.
He wrote that one should retreat down to the lowest level of the tower one finds necessary to fulfill one's moral obligations. If you don't share those foundational assumptions, then that's fine. But plenty of people in the West ostensibly do.
roche
4hr ago
A little late on this, but has anyone pointed out that the rapid onslaught of public circle censorship is a very clear response to the mass cry for the past few months of any and all CEOs who do something bad to get "luigi'd"? This seems obvious to me, it was a massive idiot move to start that bandwagon and now we're reaping the consequences.
I mean - yes, being in a relationship as a man is difficult. Mostly because if you are middle-class or better and don't have significant experience in healthcare, law enforcement, social work, or corrections you do NOT see the roughly five percent of people that are in and out of institutions for one reason or another, nor do you develop a sense of gratitude and appreciation for things like "My partner can do basic hygiene" or "Can hold a conversation" or "Can stock shelves at WalMart" or an eye for the kinds of catastrophic failures that can come when people cannot do these things.
If young men became genuinely grateful for partners that weren't likely to get them killed, maimed, or chucked in jail, a lot would change for the better.
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