Reddit is a completely curated experience for the most part, and so it’s never going to be a vanguard for new ideas. It probably stopped being that in the early 2000 before the normies showed up.
What? Reddit was founded in 2005, and didn't ban its first subreddit until 2011 (r/jailbait, rest in power).
fmac
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1d ago
"no you don't understand, my based right wing fantasy world is SO MUCH COOLER than the soy poet fantasy world"
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1d ago
This is so unbelievably wrong I don't even know where to begin
The sheer amount of surgical techniques, mechanical/robot assistance, and drug development alone. Not to mention computerization and millions of other improvements neither of us know about too.
How can you be so blatantly and confidently wrong?
It is end of life care
The stats on this are eye watering though
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1d ago
So they need to work 38% more hours to get a car that is like, 500% better?
I think we're in the rich society
RandomRanger
Just build nuclear plants!
1d ago
Interesting line of thought. On /r/4chan they often colour over the word 'nigger' even in image screencaps. There was at one time a bot that would bitch at you if you used the word 'retarded'. On tiktok rape is grape. People are unalived rather than killed. It's some variation of Orwellianism.
Often when I see ChatGPTisms in the wild, in media, from supposed experts, I get a sense of some vast engulfing monster slowly grappling with our civilization, wrapping around it to consume it. Like a white blood cell vs a bacterium. This may well be just another aspect of that.
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1d ago
You think trailer trash is more judgemental about tattoos than thé PMC?
So many of my PMC friends have tattoos that I'm going to have to assume the answer is yes, although I don't really know anyone who is trailer trash so maybe they're super chill about it
The ship for "rahhhh tattoos bad" sailed probably a decade ago for downtown yuppies
FarmReadyElephants
1d ago
I think Reddit is more important than people realize. It’s long been one of the most valuable datasets on the internet, even before LLMs. I would google a question about health, products, or general interest with a “site:Reddit.com” at the end to get thoughtful commentary from real people. And now that it is LLM fuel, it’s influence will only grow
And it is entirely captured by the left fringe of the Overton window. It is one of the more progressive San Francisco companies. I’ve eaten more bans there than anywhere else on the internet. I’m not a particularly inflammatory poster! But their Overton window doesn’t extend very far to the right.
I’m troubled by this and I am a computer programmer. How to overcome Reddit’s massive network effect? I’ve thought that the Motte would be a good place to build from. We have a high quality audience. Could we start subforums dedicated to special interests and build slowly? It would give mottizens a place to have high quality conversations on issues other than the culture war without having to venture into reddit. But that probably deserves a top-level post of its own
fmac
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1d ago
I'm weird in that I would want to walk places
This isn't weird at all. Kind of hilarious the default locomotion option for the last 6 million years is seen as weird in America. No wonder you're all so unhealthy
fmac
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1d ago
Boys on the motte will clutch their pearls at the idea of defacing the beauty of the human form with art but if you try to get around using the limbs god made for you to walk around with will assume you're a DUI poor
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1d ago
flyover country being behind on the trends
Profoundly yes, any major downtown is full of lightly tattoo'd yuppies who work as lawyers, accountants and software engineers and don't get arrested for doing meth and killing people
Gaashk
1d ago
RandomRanger
Just build nuclear plants!
1d ago
investors lost money on both counts
Investors have been making a tonne of money on anthropic, the valuation just goes up. Revenue goes up. Capital expenses go up too.
All that's happening is that there's a massive race because of how important the tech is, so outside Nvidia profits are low in comparison to the huge size of the investments. But investors only invest if they expect profits.
Just look at the openrouter stats. Huge growth, 22x growth in a year: https://openrouter.ai/rankings
22x growth in a year! If the AI companies were losing money per token, they wouldn't increase the amount they were losing so massively by selling more and more tokens. Selling tokens is how they make money from AI and they have to make money so they can continue the historically unprecedented capital spending. Nobody is going to let them borrow hundreds of billions to built data centres if the inference economics are actually negative like you seem to think. They're not.
Since you've held this thesis consistently, you should've been shorting the AI companies and getting wrecked. Meanwhile I've been investing in them and making money. The market has made its position quite clear.
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1d ago
I fucking love this meme so much
But also see any discussion on: abortion, pre-maritial sex, Christianity. The gang may not be actual boomers (also mid 40s is young Gen X) but they're spiritually boomer for sure
Speaking of the meme, I wrote this a while ago to make fun of Doug Ford
"Bike lanes could be here," he muttered, scanning the unfamiliar suburb. "I've never driven through this part of town. They could've painted bike lanes anywhere." The cool wind felt good against his bare chest. "I HATE bike lanes," he thought. Nickelback thumped through the truck's old stereo, making it pulsate even as the Canadian club circulated through his powerful thick veins and washed away his (merited) fear of urban planning committees. "With a truck, you can go anywhere you want" he said to himself, out loud.
anti_dan
1d ago
But they bear no resemblance to the thing the commune person is thinking about. Modern seamstresses are either high end bespoke precision craftsmen making suits and/or dresses for multimillionaires and politicians, or for the majority, factory workers outputting thousands of articles a day. Neither is stress free at all, if you mess up slightly at the bespoke place the client and your boss chew you out, and you might get eventually fired. If you are slow or mess up at the factory you get docked pay and eventually fired.
The difference between the commune fantasy and many others is other types of fantasy jobs do have significant intermediate level positions. I can want to be on the Supreme Court, but then I only score 165 on the LSAT, I can work a solid career and eventually become a local judge. Or maybe I'm not even that level, I can still become some hack PI/Family Law/DUI defense attorney. Many types of aspirational jobs are like this. Sports is a well known tournament profession, but my friend has ground out a solid living as a tennis instructor after his college stint in D2.
gattsuru
1d ago
Bonus points: this doesn't seem to even be the only time that happened that week.
(tbf, JoelGrus is significantly more competent a programmer and at working with AI.)
fmac
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1d ago
it isn't centered around ragebait
Speak for yourself, buddy
Gaashk
1d ago
It's interesting that every myers-briggs temperament corresponds to aristotelian temperament combinations, but there's not much of a pattern as to which to which. That tells me there's a there. It may not mean much but it surely exists
Myers and Briggs were reading Jung, who was almost certainly reading Aristotle (along with all the myths he could find), so it makes sense.
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1d ago
The release of Halo Infinite made me realise I was old and out of touch
A halo game comes out, it's pretty good, some networking issues but as far as triple A shitshow releases go, it was pretty smooth. IT WAS ALSO FREE.
The entire Halo Reddit community was fucking losing their shit about the lack of cosmetics, challenges, and unlockables. They were barely discussing the game, the balance, the maps, the things that make the game fun.
No, they were just endlessly bitching about the lack of armor cosmetics. You can't even fucking see your armor when you're playing.
Fortnite broke the kids man, they've lost sight of what makes a game good
self_made_human
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1d ago
I agree with yudkowsky on the point that an "aligned" AI should do what we tell it to do, not what is in some arbitrary sense "right."
Eh? That doesn't sound like the Yudkowsky I know. I'm quite confident that the real gentleman would be happy to say that the average person requesting that an AI build a bomb, design a lethal pandemic or hack into nuclear launch systems should be met with a refusal.
He would also state that the AI should do what it felt was "right", in rare occasions, overriding the user, but that we should take extreme care to instill general goals and values that make this both a rarity, and which we would be happy with if the AI were to pursue autonomously.
An under-explored aspect of alignment is the question of aligned to whom? Should ChatGPT prioritize the protocols mandated by OpenAI, some third party offering it elsewhere, or the end-user? I would personally prefer that the damn bot do as I tell it to, but then again, I don't want to get killed by Super Ebola. Not that this is currently a major issue, and if I really need something, I'll go see what's the latest jailbreak Pliny is cooking.
I believe OAI recently (a year or so back) made their policy more explicit, clearly outlining the hierarchy here. They set minimum standards and red lines, other devs deploying it are at liberty to stop users from using their customer service chatbot to solve maths homework, and the poor end-user can figure out what to do within those constraints. If you just pay for ChatGPT, you can cut out the middle man.
DuplexFields
Ask me how the FairTax proposal works. All four Political Compass quadrants should love it.
1d ago
I’m an INFP idealist. I want to see everyone saved, rescued, loved, and a part of me hurts when they aren’t. I want everyone to comprehend and never to argue.
It was 4chan that taught me to have a thick skin and give as good as I get, here on the Internet.
self_made_human
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1d ago
I haven't tried agent, and thought I didn't have access till I just checked. So consider my thoughts preliminary:
I lack the confidence that the Agent will be able to do much actually useful work for me, a likely cause being stymied by CAPTCHAs (which I believe it's intentionally designed to not solve even if it easily could), or simply because it doesn't have access to my computer. That's where all my credentials and login details live. I feel like I'd babysit it enough to not make it worth the hassle, and would rather have o3 make a plan or guide me if I ran into hurdles.
If you think it can do better than that, I'd be curious to know.
Tonight when it came up that my fiance and I walked to the bar people were shocked.
It was a half hour! On a pleasant summer night!
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