domain:experimental-history.com
Phil Scott is, quite literally, a liberal republican. That doesn't mean he has nothing to say, it just means that using him as an example of how not all conservatives get the joke is... questionable.
I would assume that Stefanik's statement was written by a PR team, like those of state republican chapters.
I have heard stories from Germans on pilgrimage...
It doesn't take hacking to get democrats(more important than these guys) proudly swearing allegiance to incredibly off-putting things. The dems are very proudly on the losing side of a lot of 80-20 issues so you just have to dig through their speeches until they say things like 'parents shouldn't have a say in their kids' education' and 'illegal immigrants should get transgender surgeries at taxpayer expense' and 'babies who were born alive after a failed abortion should be kept comfortable until they die'.
Do they need to be cagey and ironic around others of their ilk?
Right. Curb Your Enthusiasm has toyed with Hitler. (But then maybe until like a week after Oct 7th it was being safely done from a solidly NYC Jewish place of "we can do this"?)
I don’t think I know anyone who’d be more upset about a Hitler joke than a straight-armed salute.
A straight-armed salute probably usually is a Hitler joke.
So these people believe that sex is gay? They ACTUALLY have a goal of creating the greatest physiological torture methods known to man? They think the Kansas Young Republicans support slavery?
No, this whole "You made a joke but that means you really believe it" stuff is nonsense. Maybe you really believe it, but sometimes a joke is just a joke.
Claim (1), that these are all just jokes, seems doubtful. Many 'ironic' posters pretty clearly are using their irony for plausible deniability, and do basically believe the things they think they're being ironic about, so I guess to the assertion that these are all just jokes, I'd say 'I don't really believe you. Some of them are, some of them aren't.'
Every post of yours in this thread shows a steadfast and truly exceptional dedication to pretending to be retarded and I am genuinely impressed from a rhetorical standpoint. I know you are smart enough to understand the concept of a joke and the concept of irony, which makes your constant and wilful refusal to ever engage with what these people said in context impressive imo. I think it sucks from every other standpoint though.
Begging the question does not violate our rule on consensus-building.
Users are allowed to make controversial assumptions! Then they’re liable to get grilled on those assumptions, as is the case here.
More options
Context Copy link