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netstack
Texas is freedom land
1hr ago
Which is why I have no objection to that version.
You can be a bit snide, you can complain about melodrama, you can accuse someone of playing the snowflake. Do enough of those at once, and it becomes more important to bring the receipts.
This is not political commentary it's lashing out. He's still framing the nazis as villains.
A fair take, and entirely plausible given that it’s Kanye we’re talking about.
But, I think there is an alternative possible interpretation. Identifying with the villain doesn’t necessarily, in our modern age, indicate that the speaker thinks they are wrong or even the evil guy. It is entirely possible that Kanye both understands Hitler as the pre-assigned villain of the modern religion, and not only identifies with him but in some fashion views him as having done good things, or been on the right path, or something like that.
It’s sort of like how Joshua is viewed as a Biblical hero by Christians and Jews, but did quite a lot of total genocide in Canaan, of the sort that makes him very much a proto-Hitler if assessed by the dominant morality of our age. Villain to some, but an indicator to others that the dominant morality is actually wrong about quite a lot of things.
Kanye could be viewing Hitler in something like the same sort of framing.
Edit: I just realized Taylor released a song a while back about being the villain. I think there is an incipient cultural trend of “Maybe I’m the bad guy, but I’m right and I’m going to embrace it” occurring. Which is the first step on the road to the villain eventually being reinterpreted as the hero.
stolen_brawnze
I am the way Sia says "batteries" in that one song.
1hr ago
Cool, I'm happy for Catholics that the pope is committed to being pope-like, but anyone unfamiliar with the faith could be forgiven for only being able to take away a fully generic message of "We in the church should do our best to be decent people" from his address.
The whole purpose of the church is to show us what that means and how to do it, which of course comes with perilous controversies because we have many other philosophies trying to do the same and coming to different conclusions.
I get it, this is his first address, and the pope is severely constrained by millennia of history that he can't really riff on. But that's what I meant by it of course meaning nothing.
Corvos
1hr ago
Also Japan has ジンギスカン料理 (Gengis Khan food) which is basically various forms of grilled lamb.
Dean
Flairless
2hr ago
...not a 'constant update' thing, but if you ever want to do a deep dive / generally-untapped government policy resource, have you ever looked up stuff from legislative research services?
Some (generally larger/richer) countries keep a dedicated organization to do basic policy research for the legislative body. In Britain, this is the House of Commons Library, while in the US it is the Library of Congress's Congressional Research Service.
These sort of organizations are surprisingly good / useful when trying to read up on a policy issue. They are relatively non-partisan for the level they work at- they are working for both/all parties in general- and they tend to excel at characterizing existing laws / regulations of governments. This is because they have to take a lot of legal dynamics and convey it into forms that the target audience- legislators with minimal expertise- may understand.
Sometimes it can be interesting to take the current culture war issue of the day, and just look up what was last written about it months or years ago, before it became [current thing in culture war / propaganda].
Obviously you are limited to your language, but it can be interesting to see how parliamentary research services from around the world approach common policy issues.
hydroacetylene
2hr ago
Unions are shifting to be more right leaning- they supported Trump in the last election.
The_Nybbler
In the game of roller derby, women aren't just the opposing team; they're the ball.
2hr ago
The restaurant thing is.
https://www.gengiskhanbbq.com/
As far as I know if you want Hitler restaurants you have to go to Asia. Evidently a Stalin-themed Middle Eastern cafe didn't go over too well in Moscow, so this is one situation where the Reds don't have a great advantage over the Heilers.
AvocadoPanic
2hr ago
Mantergeistmann
2hr ago
yuengling
Yuengling is, in some circles, more disliked by craft beer snobs than even Bud/Coors/Miller, due to the pro-Trump/anti-union stance of the owner. Should unions ever shift to be more right-leaning, I'll be watching the discourse with great interest.
anti_dan
2hr ago
Will it be “post-modern corrosion” or will it be time? Genghis Khan Is believed to (1) have caused the deaths of enough people to slightly alter climate, and (2) have been the most-prolific rapist of which we are aware. And, currently, there are a couple of restaurant chains named after him here in America.
I am not aware of any of these three things being true.
AlexanderTurok
Alt-MSNBC
2hr ago
Kanye West is like a Holocaust-denying parrot. Imagine it, a parrot squawking "six million didn't die, the Holocaust is a lie!" Funny for a few days, but then you're left with a Holocaust-denying parrot squawking and crapping all over its cage. The parrot can't vote. It can’t work for DOGE. It can’t argue cases before a judge. I get it, it's funny, I'm a 4chan troll too. But I'm also interested in actually exercising power. Fuentes, who I'm not sure if he was behind Ye's ideological evolution or was just there to cheer it on, seems to be recognizing the Right's strategy of relentlessly and exclusively appealing to low human capital is not gonna go anywhere good:
https://x.com/FuentesUpdates/status/1908187813117411525
I wonder if we're seeing the first signs of postmodern corrosion eating away at the last grand unifying narrative of our age: WW2 mythos, with Adolf Hitler at its center not as mere historical figure, but as the archetypal villain and the secular devil.
One figure replacing him as the secular devil is Jeffery Epstein.
I sometimes read from the new comments tab, since reading from the roundup page means I miss interesting comments nested a few posts down. For the same reason, I didn’t realise it was a necro.
For better or worse I’ve got bored of most of my old time-wasting pages but it does mean that I tend to refresh the Motte when I get that ‘tab-out’ itch. If you can suggest alternatives I’m open :)
hydroacetylene
2hr ago
The actual lyrics of the song are 'I still can't see my children, niggers see my twitter but they don't see how I be feeling, so I became a nazi yay bitch I'm the villain, nigger heil Hitler, they don't understand the things I say on twitter nigger heil Hitler nigger heil Hitler they don't understand the things I say on twitter all my niggers nazis nigger heil Hitler'. This is not political commentary it's lashing out. He's still framing the nazis as villains.
I agree that the WWII taboo is fading. I don't think a mentally ill black man identifying with Hitler in an act of rebellion is the sign thereof.
Pigeon
coo coo
2hr ago
Many of these also vaguely comport to similar benefits non-Han have vis a vis the Han Chinese in the PRC, yet I think most of us would hesitate to label the PRC as being anti-Han.
(This is despite probably more worthy historical reasons to call the PRC “anti-Han”, actually, starting with the targeting of the Four Olds during the cultural revolution.)
Dean
Flairless
2hr ago
I'm confused.
I'm partly confused why no one necrosed a two-month-dead threat for a response. But I'm even more confused how you knew/noticed/responded within the hour for a post that didn't reference you.
Not offended / upset or anything. Just confused.
anti_dan
2hr ago
I mean, why else besides being one of those or married being the reason for a name change strikes me as silly
Wave_Existence
2hr ago
WW2 mythos
WWII's monolithic cultural universality is definitely waning as we approach its centennial anniversary, but i don't think kanye's tweets are some sort of canary for us to look to for signs of danger.
The guy, and i kinda feel bad for him even though he only has a few songs i really liked, seems to have actually lost his damn mind. People speculate as to the cause of this, was it pete davidsons giant schlong, was it his mom's death, was it his divorce that broke his tenuous grasp on reality? Nah. the guy has been doing rich people levels of the wrong drugs, hes been talking a lot about inhaling nitrous. Bro has prettymuch all the symptoms of inhalant induced brain damage and his cultural relevance will quickly fade for the normies as he transforms in real time from an avant garde rapper to a terry davis-esque lolcow insane guy yelling schizo word salad about nazi's and jesus and sucking dicks.
anon_
2hr ago
Bending over and doing the wrong thing because it's “preferable” to me...
It's not wrong in any way to do more than the absolute bare minimum in a given interaction. It is fully permitted (it's even morally exemplary) in most cases to do more than what you are strictly required.
For example, an individual might go to the DMV with 4 pieces of identification rather than the legally-required 3 simply to ensure a smooth process (and to keep the line moving). This is likewise not in any way wrong.
Suing the DMV would not be "strictly required", either, but if I were to win* it would "mak[e] everything [more] straightforwards" for the next guy who would then only have to fill out an Alabama DS-60 clone instead of waiting for a court order to get approved — so by your own logic, that seems like the right thing to do?
First off, I doubt that. The DMV would likely just grant your request which would moot the case since you had already received all the possible relief that you were asking for. So the next guy would be in exactly the same position.
Legal maneuvering aside, it's hardly the thing to stand on unless you're angling for teenaged petulance. It's unbecoming. Be better.
Exotic_cetacean
Aesthetics over ethics
3hr ago
Speaking of the legal force. Maybe you will have better luck on YouTube, or failing that just use VPN.
Blueberry
3hr ago
“This Post from @kanyewest has been withheld in Germany, France, Poland based on local law(s). Learn more”
Amadan
I will be here longer than you
3hr ago
To be perfectly honest, while @HereAndGone is being a bit snide, his characterization is really not far off from what Takacs actually said at the time: he/er really did have a meltdown about feeling unsafe over being referred to as "he."
HereAndGone
3hr ago
Guy might well have been ambitious, and I'm more "this is dumb" than truly outraged, but comparing "guy only pretended to be devout in order to get top job, now is pissed he was passed over and thinks he might as well have been a sinner because he never genuinely believed at all in the first place" to "guy makes joke that is obviously meant to be a joke about the Wars of Religion", is not comparing similar levels.
"Everyone" does not agree with this; I certainly don't. We've just finished two wars featuring the US military operating against insurgents. One was a pyrrhic victory at best, the other was a flat loss. Both were in countries significantly smaller, significantly poorer, and significantly less well-armed than the US. The assessments that generate the consensus you're referring to are based on the idea of pitched battle between AR15s on one side and Abrams tanks and f35s on the other, but it is ignorance to the point of madness to imagine that this is how the situation would work in practice. This failure to understand the nature of asymmetrical conflict was risible ten years ago, when we only had two decades of examples from our two most recent wars to draw from. Given the developments since, it approaches a very black form of comedy. We're literally watching the formation of deep-seated assassination culture in our society right now. The government can't consistently enforce straw purchase laws when the criminals submit a signed confession to federal law enforcement. And these aren't even the worst problems with such a scenario, or even in the top ten!
Blues and the Blue-adjacent have the insane belief that they could plausibly impose their will on Reds and get it to stick. Reds and the red-adjacent have the insane belief that violent conflict with the blues would be short and sharp, and then life would go back to normal. Both of these beliefs are insanely destructive if acted on. Neither side has anything near a proper understanding of just how fragile our Belle Epoch really is: It will pop like a fucking soap bubble, and it will never, ever come back. Please, I am begging you, update your priors!
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