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Spez1alEd
6m ago
Not necessarily The Motte specifically, but I'm talking about the phenomenon in general, wherever it might appear. I do think that the tendency of hard-right posters on places like /pol/ to casually and unironically refer to groups with names like mudslimes, shitskins, and so on contributes to the gradual dehumanisation of those groups in the users' minds, such that it becomes easier to justify indiscriminate violence against them. Obviously that also has to be combined with factors like anger at terror attacks or crime committed by members of the group, dismissal of concerns over it in the MSM and so on to produce that result.
MayorofOysterville
6m ago
Yeah the nones are tricky. I still suspect they are a psyop by the liberals to raise the number of secular people but I nevertheless think they are a useful category. Someone who will tick the box Christian when given the choice between Christian and Atheist but none when that is presented is definitely not a standard believer but neither are they a capital A secular Atheist as the term is. I feel most "disorganized religious practice" is too disparate and ironically disorganized to accurately measure via polling and statistics without something like in depth interviews.
sarker
It isn't happening, and if it is, it's a bad thing
9m ago
Actually, the other side of the issue is to grow America to 1 billion people, so allowing in merely another 300M people would be the centrist approach.
MayorofOysterville
23m ago
Well white is honestly probably the hardest as they don't tolerate autists very well. East Asians in Asia are pretty tolerant of Autism well as much as can be said for anyone (IDK about Japan with their insane etiquette situation. You could probably find a nice Vietnamese girl in a year or two if you went there.
urquan
Hold! What you are doing to us is wrong! Why do you do this thing?
24m ago
I think they're being normalized as we speak.
cae_jones
24m ago
If I may be less serious and delve into some Cabalistic insanity, and site Psalm 89: "Thou has a mighty arm, strong is thy hand, and high is thy right hand."
So, first, go read Unsong so as to avoid spoilers.
So there's this wordplay that equates Neal Armstrong to the right hand of God. After all, what strong arm has been higher than the Moon? But I'd take it a step further, and go back to the example of raising one's right hand high: when Israel was attacked in the wilderness, and Moses controlled the outcome of the battle by the raising of his hands. Notably, he was old and tired and the battle lasted for a while, so assistants had to prop up his right arm to keep his right hand high and win the day.
People like to point to the early 1970s as the beginning of the decline of the West. Not coincidentally, that overlaps the Apollo program. If we allow that Neal Armstrong represents the right hand of God being raised high, and Apollo is the climax of human achievement (that and eradicating smallpox, around the same time), then it's not so odd that the decline follows Armstrong's return to Earth. Like Moses, the strong arm tired and fell, and so too the tide began to turn against its people. But unlike Moses, we didn't have anyone prop up his right arm to win the battle.
So to answer the question: we're doomed unless we go back to the Moon. And the Artimas program is not encouraging.
RandomRanger
Just build nuclear plants!
27m ago
I think you forgot to link the Xi rumours, (unless it's a meta statement about how there are no 'good' roundup of rumours in a state as secretive and opaque as China).
Also, it's a bit cringe that the US wants assurances from allies about Taiwan when America itself maintains plausible deniability about what it's going to do. De jure, the US doesn't recognize Taiwan as an independent country nor is there a formal treaty requiring American aid. De facto the US has made clear intentions to go to war for Taiwan but the messaging is kind of schizo. America is the bloc ringleader, it's the US's job to make these hard calls not put others on the spot.
MayorofOysterville
33m ago
Yes I agree with all that. I probably should have been more specific. I just meant that a lot of the talk of teenage brides is not actually trad for Northern Europe.
Botond173
36m ago
A female-to-male ratio of 3:2 among college graduates means that one in three college-educated women remains childless and single or intentionally becomes a single mom or marries a working-class man. I doubt any current Western society is prepared to normalize such prospects.
ArjinFerman
Tinfoil Gigachad
36m ago
I just want to register my annoyance that I'm being argued with on a point that's not germane to the topic I was trying to refute.
Probably a bad idea to start off with a very confident declarative statement that's not even germane to the topic you wanted to discuss, then.
Total model "accuracy" hits unacceptably low numbers, in my opinion, because of how many blurred borderline cases there are, resulting in miscategorizations of various types.
What's the acceptable level of accuracy? Would it change your mind if it turned out "race" is no worse in that regard than most other categories in biology, or would it mean we have to throw the entire science out?
sarker
It isn't happening, and if it is, it's a bad thing
40m ago
You see this all the time in California. I know a boomer or two who has empty houses that he doesn't even rent out because he doesn't want to bother.
The tax situation for real estate in California is an incredibly sweet deal. Your tax basis is the valuation at purchase time with a yearly increase not to exceed inflation or 2%. Boomers are paying pennies in property tax on all their properties while people who buy a house now can pay ten thousand a year for an ""starter"" house. Another transfer from the productive to the retired.
2D3D
45m ago
The future will be robowaifus and robohusbandos to fulfill the emotional satiation quotient of the bottom rung of society that will be doomscrolling on welfare just to keep them out of trouble. The rewards for the highest performers will exist as status and superior experiential material comfort, and their contribution will be state or private embryo donations to perpetuate a superior line.
Other than that I don't see a solve. Women want dewy skinned sparkly guys who aren't abusive assholes, guys want therapy cumdumps, and this is just a fundamental tension of society. Just let people live their life, if they turn out to not be great let them/us rot in our little coccoon worlds and expire without trouble. The big issue is jealous assholes who want stuff in reality and are happy to leverage physical abuse to get their way. Maybe arm the robospouses with kung fu skills, I dunno.
ArjinFerman
Tinfoil Gigachad
56m ago
That's two directions...
George_E_Hale
insufferable blowhard
59m ago
This sounds like a just-so story. Sorry it just rings false and fanciful without details, though you may be relating something true enough as you perceive it. What's a "ghetto boy?" What's the "best western civilization (whatever that is) can provide"? What's the definition of "terrorized" here?
I thought you said MAGA is supposed to be a personality cult, blindly following everything Trump says.
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