ArjinFerman
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Weird, I realize we're playing dueling anecdotes but I can't remember a single person I know talking about the environmental aspects of their Tesla.
Where are you from, roughly?
Europe can be very weird about this sort of stuff. My wife got an e-bike figuring it'll be a bit healthier to get off her ass, even if assisted by electricity, and the whole office was oohing and aahing over her "social awareness" for weeks.
belied by the number of cybertrucks on the road.
Oh, must be America, I think they're illegal here.
ArjinFerman
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13d ago
and some cities (London, Paris, I assume others) explicitly discourage or even disallow non-EVs from certain areas.
I've lived in cities with emission norms, and even diesels are allowed in as long as they're relatively new. London and Paris might have gone literally zero emission, though I've never had to drive in either so can't confirm, and they'd be an exception.
Subsidies don't seem to be enough to sway any normie I've met, and the type of person I've met that has an EV still very much fits into the profile we were discussing with Southkraut.
ArjinFerman
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13d ago
It has nothing to do with virtue signalling.
I don't know what to tell you man, from my neighbors to coworkers, it's a very specific type of person that even thinks of buying an EV.
ArjinFerman
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13d ago
He does still have an uncontested dominance of spaceflight... Pretty far from dead man walking IMO!
The competition is catching up, and Starship has so far been nothing but a money furnace. Unless you show me how much money he's making from it, clean, I stand by my words.
Plus Tesla is by far the largest electric car producer in America,
Where sales are also declining, and there's no product on the horizon to reverse the trend. The money was thrown into gimmicks that are either proven abortions like the CyberTruck, or ones that are likely to follow it's fate, like Semi, Robotaxi/Cybercab, or Optimus. No sign of Roadster, that a bunch of people are actually waiting for.
Having the market locked down means nothing. Blues will sooner return to gasoline cars before supporting Musk, and Reds weren't ever that hot on EVs to begin with. He Budweiser'd himself.
Europe has always favoured European vehicles, it's understandable that Volkswagen is in the lead there.
This wasn't the case until very recently. Most EV's I see on the road that I see are still Teslas.
ArjinFerman
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13d ago
How was it empirically disproven?
I don't put much trust in brain scan studies so I never bookmarked it, but there's a regular conversation between trans/anti-trans that goes something like:
- Here's a study that shows trans people's brains are literally more similar to the average of the gender they identify with.
- That study has failed to account for sexuality. A follow up that included it as a variable found that cis gay people also have brains more similar to the opposite sex, and that "trans brains" are indistinguishable from "cis gay brains".
ArjinFerman
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13d ago
Hunter wanted to make it seem like Joe was in on it so Hunter could plausibly "sell access",
From what I remember he was claiming that to other members of his family (his kids?).
but no money ever made it to Joe.
Was Joe audited?
ArjinFerman
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13d ago
1979 is pretty late in the game. If you want a historical case, I'd go with Christine Jorgensen, which was nearly 30 years prior. The thing is even that story contains a significant element of social contafion, as Jorgensen was widely profiled in the media, putting the idea in the American public's awareness, and leading Harry Benjamin (the prior namesake of WPATH) to say "Indeed, Christine, without you, probably none of this would have happened; the grant, my publications, lectures, etc."
but how do skeptics of "endogenous" transgender feelings explain historical cases? A "critical mass" of cases sufficient for self-sustaining sociogenesis may be possible, but how could it come to exist, absent any "genuine" cases?
I'm not sure there's anything to explain. There must have been "genuine" cases of Morgellons disease, in that the affected person formed the idea relatively independently, rather than copy-pasting a ready made one from the media, but I don't think it implies they had actual skin parasites.
Tesla is Musk's biggest source of capital, and it's sales, at least in Europe, were fueled by virtue signalling. Now imagine the look on the face of the exact type of person, that wants to be seen as saving the planet, suddenly being seen as a Nazi instead. Tesla's sales are tanking accordingly, so I consider Elon to be a dead man walking, if he loses political backing. The drama being about the budget, I wonder if he wasn't hoping for some bailout to be included there, which didn't materialize.
Anyway, if being cut loose is a foregone conclusion, he might figure that he might as well drag everyone else down with him.
Trump's budget is broadly awful, exploding the deficit to pay for regressive tax cuts, so I hope it dies.
That's an interesting play, since a fair amount of Trump's base isn't so hot on exploding budgets, so maybe he'll manage to stir the pot this way. But these days it feels like the budget can only explode, and if anyone tried doing something crazy, like balancing it, the whole system would collapse.
ArjinFerman
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13d ago
Unless you're coding a way to whitelist him, I don't feel like this is an appropriate thread for this post.
ArjinFerman
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14d ago
What's farcical? You guys are agreeing:
They'd make housing as quickly and as cheaply as they are making that bullet train.
If I compare any political movement in it's entirety to it's top thought leaders, I get the same result.
ArjinFerman
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14d ago
What’s happening here is the wrong decision, just like Roe v. Wade was the wrong decision (for reference, that the Supreme Court had any business deciding the matter - I actually rather like the rule as pragmatic legislation). The law, as written, and procedures, as defined, deserve a great degree of deference.
That might be the case if we were talking about mistakenly making the wrong decision. If the decisions were made maliciously, and in the case of both Roe, and this one, they quite obviously were, the law and procedures deserve active contempt, not deference.
ArjinFerman
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14d ago
So? That was from Keith Woods' post, who isn't here to converse with (to my knowledge), while TheDag also cited Trump, a far more well-known figure. Is there a particular reason why I must now educate myself on some dude I never heard of, instead of responding to the broader points using the person I have actually heard about as a reference?
ArjinFerman
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14d ago
"Droves" is an exaggeration - Trump won 18-29 men 49-48 per the 2024 exit poll
SSCReader said it was 56%?
My read is that the MAGA is in the middle of the pack in terms of right-populist movements ability to appeal to young men.
That's fine. I just have issues with calling that "greater problems attracting young people".
ArjinFerman
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14d ago
Correct, that definitely does not count as “my life sucks” in anywhere near the same way as Oliver Anthony style “I’m personally oppressed and downtrodden, and it’s my outgroup’s fault” populism.
I wish I knew who the hell that was. Anyway, since we agree it's not about Trump, looks like w agree OP's thesis can be dismissed.
I don’t think so. I think there’s an important qualitative difference between populist “rage and vengeance” grievance on the one hand — which is what the OP is attributing to Anglophone conservatism — and the technocratic/futurist “we’ve identified the problems, and it’s time to let smart and successful elites determine how to fix those problems” institutionalism of the factions I identified.
How can I determine that this is, in fact, the case, rather than it being a Russell's conjugation?
ArjinFerman
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14d ago
Even if you can find example of the people I’m pointing to saying their outgroup sucks, you’re still missing the “my life sucks” part.
What, "my cars are not selling because of vandalism and smears against my company triggered by my political activity" does not count?
Elon Musk’s life manifestly does not suck,
Does Trump's, or Vance's?
Similarly, the main figures in the “Abundance Democrats” — assuming such a faction does indeed exist
You're the one that posited their existence!
because they believe that such people are actively preventing American society from addressing a major issue that is negatively impacting the lives of many people.
Yes, that's what "my life sucks" meant in TheDag's reductive summary.
ArjinFerman
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14d ago
That's all fair enough,but given those numbers I think it's also fair to dismiss the claim that they're having trouble attracting young people (men in particular), unless some kind of supporting argument is provided.
ArjinFerman
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14d ago
One could point to the “Abundance Democrats” and the “Tech Right” as two ascendant factions made up very largely of successful, optimistic, non-resentful individuals.
I haven't observed either to be a coherent concept. Someone recently gave Elon as an example of the "Tech Right", and he's pretty quick to complain about he's outgroup the last time I checked. As for "Abundance Democrats", are they the ones constantly blaming "NIMBY's" for everything? Also, neither one of them is particularly credible in their promises of a brighter future, though I suppose that's another topic.
ArjinFerman
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14d ago
Define the terms please. There's a version of this I might agree with, if for example by Conservatism you mean it's Boomer implementation, but that's not a problem of Conservatism qua Conservatism, that's a problem of Liberalism writ-large.
My life sucks, boo out group isn't really lyrics that inspire or offer novel insights.
What? There may have been a time that political thinkers would sell you dreams of a shining future, but currently the entire political spectrum is based on "my life sucks, boo out group".
It isn't surprising that the anglosphere right has greater problems attracting young people than the right in the rest of the west.
Isn't this completely false? Last I've seen they had trouble attracting young women, with young men flocking to the in droves.
ArjinFerman
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15d ago
Glenn is now denying that he retweeted the video. Normally I'd interpret is as damage control / cope, but I actually have reason to believe him.
You see, I browse twitter through a bespoke nitter -> rss -> miniflux stack, that archives every feed I'm subscribed to, and I'm subscribed to Greenwald, yet I see no trace of the retweet.
The system isn't bulletproof - don't remember the exact settings, but it downloads fresh content only every couple minutes, so there's enough time to post and delete something between refreshes; or sometimes I get hit by rate limiting - but it's pretty good (I routinely catch Alan MacLeod deleting his bangers / retarded takes), so at this point I'm going to need more than a screenshot to believe he actually did this.
ArjinFerman
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15d ago
His interview with Tucker Carlson, arguably.
ArjinFerman
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15d ago
perhaps you were gesturing at something like the following syllogism: “woke tactics + right-wing views = ‘woke right’; ~every right-winger compares his opponents to Nazis, which is a woke tactic; ergo the entire right is ‘woke right’”
No, I'm gesturing at the exact people who are using the term "woke right" and insisting it's meaningful, using the most hamfisted equivocation between their opponents and Nazis.
I get that you could, in theory, define it in such a way that it actually makes sense, and points at similarities between the woke left and specific factions of the right, but in practice it's just a tactic to avoid discussing ideas liberalism knows it will lose against.
ArjinFerman
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16d ago
Is trying to associate people, who's views you don't like, with nazis a woke tactic? Do you know who'd qualify as "woke right" if the answer to that question was "yes"?
ArjinFerman
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16d ago
I'd like a movie where some gigachad Sean Connery secret agent from the 1950s comes forward in time and has to deal with modern norms and lame gadgets, shows all the paper-pushers and pencilnecks what real racism and sexism looks like.
Demolition Man, but different timeframes.
Aren't you some London finance quant? The only way to get less representative of the average European from that is if you married into literal aristocracy.
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