George_E_Hale
insufferable blowhard
The things you lean on / are things that don't last
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George_E_Hale
insufferable blowhard
17d ago
Past five on a Friday is more typical.
George_E_Hale
insufferable blowhard
17d ago
That's just my point though, calling it rape suggests a volition, a willful act against the consensual, as opposed to simply instinct. A human can rape, because rape is a human act, defined within human terms. A dog (or whatever we're talking about) cannot be defined within those terms, even if the human is unwilling. Presumably a dog would only have sex with a human if coerced or duped. I guess. I don't particularly want to know. Even if it did make it with a human, it would not be rape as such, though it would be a violation, and certainly unseemly and profane, if we can use those terms.
This reminds me of a time around 20 years ago sitting in a local dive, a college bar devoid of college students, with a friend of mine, he was flipping through a magazine, one of many the owner had left at the bar, some biker/art/alternative magazine. On one page was a blonde Japanese woman showing a good deal of leg, walking what appeared to be a Pyrenees or Samoyed. I was an idiot and had been drinking and made a stupid joke: "Turn the page and she'll be fucking that dog."
He turned the page. I hadn't got it quite right, as the dog was humping her. Not her leg, if you understand my meaning. I never looked at that bar's magazines after that. Anyway they closed their big swinging door about a decade later.
You can disagree about the word rape here, it's fine, it's not something I care that deeply about, just my sense. I used to be annoyed at the reddit crowd when someone would remark on dolphins' mental capacity and the tendency to be protective of humans in open water, then to many thousands of upvotes someone would counter testily "Yeah but fuck dolphins, they're rapists." This seems the same kind of naïve misconstruing of animal behavior as the people who keep chimpanzees as pets and call them "part of the family".
George_E_Hale
insufferable blowhard
17d ago
Never imagined I'd be posting this on a Wednesday morning, but I think applying the word rape to animal behavior is unnecessarily anthropomorphic. A dog doesn't rape, it just goes with its instincts. Rape is a human term involving consent, etc.
George_E_Hale
insufferable blowhard
17d ago
Ir wouldn't be formally announced. China would keep Trump off camera and the CCP would make some statement that he was enjoying an extended visit in private.
Newsrooms around the world would privately celebrate their good fortune in covering the ongoing story.
A certain subset of the American public would begin "You can keep him" campaigns, probably with hats and T-shirts, etc. These would be all over TikTok. This in the vein of the tendency of many Americans to want to mash a self-destruct button.
Democratic politicians would make statements of feigned outrage beginning with "We disagree on everything, but.." Some would suggest peaceful negotiations.
The UN, after a long session , would make a solemn statement about how such behavior in China's part is unacceptable. Then do nothing.
Markets would go into freefall. Allies would mobilize for war with an unclear objective. Even more interesting times would ensue.
George_E_Hale
insufferable blowhard
17d ago
This is very interesting. My first reaction was doubt, if not scorn, but clicking on the link I see that when you say unabridged that's exactly what you mean. It's the full novel, not a graphic novel rendering with speech bubbles etc. Maybe that's what a visual novel actually is and I am just learning the term. I suppose for some nonreaders who prefer pictures instead of text alone this could draw them more into reading, regardless of the art style. This must be quite time-consuming!
George_E_Hale
insufferable blowhard
18d ago
Upvoted for word choice.
George_E_Hale
insufferable blowhard
18d ago
Read the four years ago, like many enjoyed the first most. Mishima--I tell someone I've read a good deal of Mishima--and they sit up, impressed. If I say I've read a dozen Murakami novels they shrug. What I have to then admit is that I read in translation, in English. Mishima's kanji and word choice is apparently miles away from Murakami's more accessible prose, and to read Mishima in Japanese suggests a strong command of the language. Like comparing say Thomas Pynchon and Stephen King as an English reader. I say all this not knowing if you're reading in Japanese, English, or German.
I am glad I read the books, though, without spoiling, I will say they did get weird. Then again Mishima was, by my reckoning, a pretty big nutter, and I use that term in the Commonwealth sense of "fucking nuts." I do enjoy much of his writing though. I recently lent a friend a copy of Ai no kawaki or Thirst for Love and I believe his response was "Wtf did I just read?"
George_E_Hale
insufferable blowhard
19d ago
You're not wrong, but I will admit slight surprise that anyone is only now, in this particular news cycle, realizing this. I've had nearly a verbatim thought for, oh, twenty years or so now.
The Coming Plague, well before 2014 (early 90s?) certainly made it sound feasible. That was an interesting book. The girl I was seeing at the time (then yet-to-be-a-med-student, now a fairly reputable doctor) used to go on and on about it. I think pandemics or their possibility are what got her into medicine, though apparently she's not now an epidemiologist. Edit: Nevermind
George_E_Hale
insufferable blowhard
19d ago
I wouldn't worry about it. To be clear, you do seem perfectly mannered in our interactions. It's like a kid (I'm the kid in this scenario) listening to the grownups talk at the dinner table, and noticing uncle Balasubramanian tends to talk down to those who argue with him. You think, "I think I'll avoid that." But he does tell good stories!
George_E_Hale
insufferable blowhard
20d ago
Look dude. I'll say it again, that's just the way I talk. There is no malice behind it, at worst it's a textual tic or an expression of mild exasperation. If you find it that unbearable, well, that's a shame. Take care.
I personally find your riffing and attempts at humor at the expense of your interlocutor (and/or his/her views) off-putting, and generally I avoid interacting with you for this reason. This is just a data point for you, of course you're free to act however you like. (Even here I expect some sort of snarky "Thanks for the permission" retort, when that is not the tack I'm intending. If I generally posted in a way that caused others to react badly I'd want to know.) Even here, you seem to apologize, then think better of it and your last two sentences are basically a fuck off. It's very un-Motte, though rests in the plausible deniability "Whatever do you mean?" territory.
But I'm a fucking Quokka, to use a Motte-term, so there's that.
As I have written here before, I think your takes are often insightful, if bitter pills. I also think your generalizations are probably too wide and confined to a subset of hot/mildly damaged women (all of us, men and women, are at least mildly damaged) and that your ability to calibrate/"read the vibes" isn't a particularly transferable skill. I also think what she wants and what is good (healthy if you prefer) for her (to say nothing of what is good for me/a man) are often not the same. In other words maybe in her secret garden she has a nice rape fantasy planted; that doesn't mean that I do, or that I'm interested at all in accommodating her.
I've been married 20+ years, I'm under no illusion that women are necessarily wonderful, but I'm also convinced that we're fundamentally different (male and female) well beyond simply plumbing, and that one aspect of our role as men is to be protective. I wouldn't want to indulge some girl's getting off on her own self-loathing any more than I'd want her exacerbating, for sexual kicks, my own (to what degree any self-loathing remains after 50 years of systematically eradicating it).
George_E_Hale
insufferable blowhard
21d ago
Probably, though associated mostly with a mom who closely curates schoolwork, what schools to apply for, study time, juku or cram schools, etc. I understand the Amy Chua version as much more all-encompassing (i.e. never allow your child unstructured free time, period.)
George_E_Hale
insufferable blowhard
21d ago
Also I'd argue kyōiku mama is not particularly derogatory but descriptive. Kyōiku simply means education. There are other terms like onibaba that refer to more fierce and literally demon-hags that nag their children about xyz. A woman might even describe herself as a kyōiku mama though no woman would describe herself as onibaba.
But this may have been added by a Japanese person with a different view.
edit: A lesbian friend of mine once said the term woman was often meant derogatorily. As in "That woman said..." This was only a few years after Bill Clinton's denials about sexual relations with Monica, so maybe that's what she was thinking of. I didn't ask what term she'd prefer.
George_E_Hale
insufferable blowhard
22d ago
I'm also reading that close prolonged contact is typical, not just droplets across a conversation.
George_E_Hale
insufferable blowhard
22d ago
I predict the media will make much of this, the CA will recover, no further clusters will be discovered, and the cases that do emerge will be quickly quarantined and contained. But the key phrase is that the media will regularly run insinuating, panicky articles until it blows over
George_E_Hale
insufferable blowhard
23d ago
Always a pleasure, Sloot. Did you just assume the positive feedback beforehand? Or lucked into it?
George_E_Hale
insufferable blowhard
23d ago
She initially insisted that I wear a condom and that she didn’t like oral sex; however, after a few rounds of slapping, choking, and spitting in her mouth, guess who was enthusiastically sucking dick and getting rawdogged?
So to restate: She told you to use a condom and that she didn't want to fellate you, but you slapped, choked, and spat on her and then she acquiesced.
This sounds rather more like your thing than hers, though of course reported narratives are often misremembered and/ot relevant detail inadvertently left out.
George_E_Hale
insufferable blowhard
25d ago
There you are, for some reason I haven't been seeing your posts recently.
George_E_Hale
insufferable blowhard
25d ago
looks great
George_E_Hale
insufferable blowhard
25d ago
Inspiring! Sounds great.
George_E_Hale
insufferable blowhard
26d ago
Best wishes to a successful remission. Never tried to make sourdough though it's a great sandwich bread.
George_E_Hale
insufferable blowhard
26d ago
Ham and green beans are solid. Green beans and purple -hull field peas were staple sides at lunch and dinner growing up
George_E_Hale
insufferable blowhard
26d ago
How's the ticker? While dietary cholesterol is apparently not the bugbear it was made out to be for years, saturated fats are still considered a cause of atherosclerosis. Then there is the metabolic/blood glucose issue. Truly you should be studied.
In your second example (God help me for discussing this) the male has acted willfully to con/re strain the woman, thus his act can be considered rape, impairment or no. By me, I mean. I am certainly not a lawyer and cannot adjudicate this in any sort of legal sense in any jurisdiction. It wouldn't even matter if the restraint was violent. As long as she was unwilling, rape is the word. And importantly, he's human. He's acting on human impulses and has restrained her.
To answer your 1, yes that sounds about right. The human used the animal to violate/rape.
This is just my take but I honestly see it as the reasonable take. Change my view if you're (anyone) up for it. Or just let this discussion die.
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