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who predict or expect a foreign policy crisis if trump wins

Roughly speaking: he is far to likely to jump to extremes that are not good solutions. Say what you want about Biden but at least he is not going to ask for missile strike on Zelensky/Putin/Ali Khamenei.

Or other outrageous stuff.

With Trump? Hopefully will not happen, but risk is much higher.

I am curious, have they bothered to explain why temperature is growing? Or at least leave it as an open question?

Or are they denying that Earth gets warmer?

In normal sensate reality, heat only flows from hot to cold, but the greenhouse effect appears to involve an inverted heat flow within this system.

Nope. It is about how efficient energy transfer from Sun (hot) to Earth (cold) is and how it happens. Second law of thermodynamics is not violated.

This is an article written by someone that used to strongly believe in anthropogenic global warming

This is not a strong credentials at all.

I think the proper and critical thinking response to a conspiracy claim isn’t dismissing it out of hand, but demanding proof.

Well, you often get "it is OBVIOUS", "lack of proof is proving strength of conspiracy" or "please view this 2h long youtube video".

What now?

I tried, but from part when author apparently fails at understanding second law of thermodynamics (or thinks that Earth during summer is hotter than Sun) I started skimming.

Can you point me to relevant part if I asked about part I missed?

Hanania

Not sure how it generalizes but I read single thing written by Hanania. It was on topic that I know relatively well and what Hanania wrote was atrociously offensively bad take and extreme misinterpretation of reality.

Are you suggesting that the person you are replying to might genuinely not be aware of that

I think it is likely that they know this fact, but pretend that reality is different.

But why would Putin attack the Baltics?

For the same reasons as Russia invaded Ukraine? Both actual reasons and claimed reasons would be recycled.

So now Reuters is stating that Russia is a "larger, better-equipped enemy"? Really? This is where we're at, after more than 2 years? They actually have the cheek to say this? Every single liberal leftist normie-oriented talking head I ever encountered kept repeating for months that the orc invasion force is completely undersized for the task, their rapist orc cannon fodder is deserting en masse and running from their positions like rabbits, they ran out of artillery shells and missiles, have no food, no gear, no body armor, no tanks, what equipment they have is all a piece of crap etc.

Really? I have seen many many "Russia outguns Ukraine" articles over time. Also who the heck claims that Russia has no tanks and run out of artillery shells? Where are you getting your "normies"? Even dumber parts of reddit are not so dumb.

orc invasion force is completely undersized for the task

This one I heard mostly from pro-Russia trolls before full-scale war started in their "Russia has no plans to invade Ukraine full scale and no Russian soldiers attacked Ukraine" mode.

What about "Russia is so strong that if we don't stop them here, they may be able to take Moldovia/Estonia! But if delay them and rebuild European armies then risk becomes nonexisting. Also, maybe they will be even kicked out of Ukraine that has not collapsed yet?" for pessimistic version? Without cognitive dissonance?

As to the thermodynamics, the arguments are plentiful. I'll just point out two physicists believed that it does violate the 2nd Law and published a peer-reviewed paper to that effect (Gerlich & Tscheuschner)

That is not giving any info whatsoever what the claim is - and if we are going via ad authority arguments then surely you are aware that you are going to lose here? And appeal to peer-reviewed papers is not going to help you much?

Why supposedly GHE would violate second law of thermodynamics?

When corrected, there is heating but much smaller amount.

So, assuming that all claims made in this comment are true: there is still warming anyway.

If someone is looking for overly bigbrained consipracy theories, then false flag by Russia is far more reasonable than Ukrainians wasting any resources at all on this.

Well, I assume that if Ukraine would surrender and be digested by Russia - then Russia would proceed with next invasion. So Ukrainians would be dying in large numbers in stupid war started by Russia anyway AND you would have Russian occupation with all its consequences.

constantly referring to Russians as “invaders” like some sort of marvel movie speech

This is entirely accurate, as Russian army invaded Ukraine. If Russians dislike being in position of villains, maybe they should stop invading, murdering, looting and raping.

Or at least stop being surprised why noone wants Russian little green men visiting and why everyone in regions funds Ukrainian defense. (that is because funding it now is preferable to covering both human and financial costs of being invaded by Russia)

Zelensky should be negotiating a truce

Yeah, lets negotiate it in Budapest. Maybe call it Budapest Memorandum.

(in case above line is unclear: Russia has negative credibility and any promises of no invading they would make are useless. See also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum )

who has been losing his war, is going to push Russia completely out of the LPR and DPR (areas occupied by Russians since long before Putin invaded)

??? 2014 invasion was Putin's invasion. Also, right now Russia seems losing war if anyone is doing it

What are you willing to call success, such that we can move on, job well done, no more entanglements and expenditures needed?

It is not a board game. USA will continue to have relations with all involved parties, it does not end.

...Like, what's your actual conception of how this is all going to roll out? Putin is couped by the competent, democratic statesmen who form his opposition and then Russia reforms into a functional capitalist democracy, thereby nullifying the threat of their considerable nuclear arsenal? Is that the road you're looking for?

No, not expecting that. I would settle for Russia defanged enough that they shut up about USSR-sized sphere of influence. And will stop thinking they can take on NATO or countries supported by NATO.

It appears that going through ginormous stockpiles produced by USSR may be needed before that will happen.

(obviously, settling for being corrupt and internally violent and sort-of-useful as sort-of counterbalance against China would be nice, but sadly they actually believed that they are still superpower entitled to rule over central and eastern Europe...)

Surrendering seems unlikely to be good solution or better solution.

Indeed this poll is equivalent to the following one

no it is not

"stay in room and keep pressing button labelled 'start blender'" would fit a bit better

but he kept using that term.

where?

"US official says Russia has probably lost half its tanks, used majority of precision-guided weapons in Ukraine" is hardly "no tanks" or "ran out of artillery shells and missiles"

0% is not the same as 50%

NAFO

If you are getting normies from such groups you really need to recheck your normie supply. Typical person was not engaging in this.

their fortified positions will be pounded into dust because they're a paper bear

I have not really seen it, people making this type of stupid prediction are unaware that fortified positions exist.

"scientists can still be wrong" was obvious at start, you still failed to make convincing case about literally anything here.

they were client states where a pro-Russian government was removed by a Western-backed revolution Because they were hosting strategically important Russian military bases and threatening to seize/expel them?

this is applicable, and happened in Baltics, just a bit earlier

None of these justifications are applicable.

And none of this were real reason for invasion of Ukraine (in my opinion, I may be wrong - or you may simply disagree about interpretation of situation).

The Russian coethnics story was always a pretext for public consumption that didn't actually figure much into the decision whether to go to war

Though here I agree.

Do you not see that "Putin will invade the Baltics" is the same sort of "of course the outgroup will do the maximally evil thing, they are motivated by evil after all" reasoning?

This is not maximally evil thing Putin could do, I can imagine far more evil ones.

And "Russia will invade the Ukraine, then Baltics, then maybe Poland" is prediction dating back to Georgia-Russia war. And still, I would not treat it as likeliest or obvious - but as one of worse scenarios. But as being possible if things will go horribly wrong. I would note that this opinion is relatively well shared in Poland, even postcommunist and anti-Ukraine parties were supporting military builtup and fixing our military. Left one had relatively antimilitary opinion, in they program they suggested spending 3% of GDP on military without increase to 4% as some suggested.

Expecting Russian empire to try invading neighbours when possible is so far fairly well working bet, over last centuries - and there is no indicator that they plan to change it any time soon. Note my prediction is "there is a real risk of Russia invading NATO country", this is not specific to Putin. I have no great illusion that Putin disappearing would make things much better.

People saying "if we don't stop him now, he'll take Poland" are fabulists. This is not a realistic scenario.

Why you think that it is not plausible at all? If Russia invades Baltics and NATO effectively does nothing - why you think that Russia invading Poland is not a viable scenario?

I think that it is not very likely (fortunately) but it seems likely enough for me to justify supporting Ukraine.

I don't see any moral difference between a Ukrainian conscript or a Russia one.

I see. Russian one is aggressor (yes, in smaller or larger part unwilling) and potential danger to me.

If someone murders people because they were blackmailed or something I have much lesser problem with them being shot.

Also, Russian soldiers can surrender, escape, emigrate, frag officers and so on.

Gaza is under an illegal blockade

Given what they do with what they manage to get: I am not surprised that it is under blockade, legal or otherwise (note that any effective blockade needs support also from Egypt)