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The Holocaust as can be coherently defined started on June 22, 1941 with the invasion of the Soviet Union.

Why? Schnellbrief was issues on 1939-09-21, shortly after joint Nazi Germany and USSR invasion of Poland.

By 1940 expulsions/ghetto formation by Germans was going full strength. See say https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Ghetto#Establishment_of_the_ghetto

See for example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Ghetto_Hunger_Study and

An average daily food ration in 1941 for Jews in Warsaw was limited to 184 calories, compared to 699 calories allowed for gentile Poles and 2,613 calories for the Germans.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Ghetto#Establishment_of_the_ghetto

but that this does not meet the criterion of purposeful holocaust / genocide

Even if I would accept claims that gas chambers and death camps were fake, then genocide by starvation is genocide anyway - so it does not change much.

And forcing Jews into ghettos created by Germans and trying to starve them is, I think, not disputed even by resident SS man?

Germans were deliberately starving Jews, imprisoning in newly created ghettos, forbidding them to work and so on - long before Germans were starving in cities.

To say nothing about fact that starving was caused in both cases (of conquered people and of Germans) by war that Germans started.

and the starvation would be out of Germany’s control

Germans were deliberately starving Jews, imprisoning in newly created ghettos, forbidding them to work and so on - long before Germans were starving in cities.

Tragic situation ghettos was not out of Germany’s control, it was not even accidental or unintended mismanagement, it was entirely deliberate. And that is before we even start considering death camps.

You can try creating thread instead of posting top comment (unless you never post top comments).

Open borders (those poor immigrants)

That is easiest to refute. Have you looked up how Poland and other European countries build walls to keep unwanted emigrants out?

Government was actually interested in keeping illegal emigrants out and was at least minimally competent so fence was build*. 186 kilometers, 400 million dollars. Construction permits, project paperwork, public investment assessment, legally required discussion, environment assessment, plan review and everything else got waived.

Illegal border crossings dropped drastically.

Poland has universal suffrage.

And it is not a fluke, Lithuania fortified border, Finland started wall construction recently from what I remember.

*unlike in case of Trump who is more interested in collecting donation to himself than in keeping illegal migrants out.

We can have a free, fair, open, educated society in which women and kids aren't threatened every time they walk a street or attend a school, or we can let women vote and participate in the workplace. But we cannot have both.

That is untrue. Poland has both, Ukraine had both before Russia started to bomb it, Czech Republic has both, Slovakia has both, Finland has both, Estonia has both, Lithuania has both... I can go on.

You get "Mean Girls" running a matriarchy - and NO matriarchy - EVER - has succeeded in all of history.

Really? Any? Ever? Really?

without the massive sacrifices of the people responding to the Chernobyl disaster the actual impact would have been cataclysmic.

That part was a lie/fantasy. Maybe plausible in story-lie but not describing reality at all.

Even intentional release of all irradiated material directly into atmosphere by deliberately mixing it with flammable material and burning it would not cause what was described there.

Not doing anything with burning power plant would be even less problematic.

(yes, it would kill many people - but would be nowhere close to various fantasy stories about irradiated magical ghouls roaming Europe that some present as actually likely)

Like I said, it's a decent rocket, but hardly mindblowing.

Reusability is way overblown, and I haven't seen much evidence it brings all that much (any?) savings.

SpaceX resulted in massive price reduction of getting to orbit

mobile OSes too will either be abstracted away

Why would Apple cooperate with that? And agree to substitute their OS with some standard abstract OS?

Idea stated in this post is not interesting nor important.

I have no idea why Apple would cripple their main selling point to follow trend.

There were some remarkably stupid business decisions, but that would be one of the worst in history. It sometimes happens but is not very likely. And entirely about leadership being terminally stupid, not about tech trends.

Has Diablo Immortal ended as profitable product?

So, if the intentions are good

they are not actually good

They need to get in front of the inevitable leak to the general public by:

They can and will just survei whatever the fuck they want, as it is happening now.

Why did they layoff staff then?

presumably their costs were greater than loss of profits

(or it was a bad idea but some manager benefitted personally)

but he kept using that term.

where?

This video here probably shows 10% of tanks, IFVs given to Ukraine sitting abandonded in a few square kilometers of fields.

You seem to count some subset of tanks. Poland alone gave Ukraine around 330 tanks and 240 IFV (per https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/08/a-european-powerhouse-polish-military.html ).

This field has far less than 10% of that.

I don't appreciate the casting of my understanding of the situation as "Russian".

Well, it seems to follow "we must surrender to Russia" which is good for Russia and bad for everyone else.

Especially

I think that Russia's preferred outcome would have been for Ukraine to remain a neutral borderzone between them and NATO forces

was weird. It is quite clear that preferred outcome for Putin and other similar russians would be recreation of USSR or larger.

Firm security guarantee that Ukraine does not join NATO nor host NATO forces/missile systems, and an end to the attacks on the breakaway republics and Crimea. Beyond that, a rescindment of the sanctions placed upon Russia and a return of their seized assets.

Then next step would be to send totally-not-russian-army into Kherson. Or maybe meddle in Estonia.

I think that's a fair compromise and would satisfy the Russians

Russians would be happy. But I see no reason to expect that they would hold to it better than to Budapest Memorandum.

I expect he would have agreed.

Agreed, and continue salami slicing Ukraine. How that would be preferable to anyone except Putin?

Would he have come back for more? Maybe

No idea why you see maybe here. Russia fucked up Budapest Memorandum, initially bothered to pretend they have not invaded, later invaded more and more openly, shot down civilian plane, in 2022 Putin openly declared destruction of Ukraine as a goal (:"demilitarization"), annexed area they even do not control...

Why on earth they would stop after Ukraine would surrender and give up territory after being threatened? They would continue after such success.

if they incited the war behind the scenes it was very well hidden, but the surely did nothing to stop it

Admitting Ukraine into NATO would raise a lot of screeching and Turkey/Hungary would block that anyway.

Giving NATO-like guarantees to Ukraine would be quite risky, also politically.

Giving Putin regime what they wanted (rerun of Chamberlain) would not really help anyway.

What USA was even supposed to do? Maybe precomitting to support Ukraine would be a good idea.

The war buck stops with us because we kept this going.

I agree that it is Russia fault, but how this changes anything? It is not much that can be done with that except supplying Ukraine more.

They live in a Cripps neighborhood, joining the Bloods was never a viable option.

war so far seems to indicate that Russia overestimated their power

maybe they will finally get that Russian empire is done?

why it was the smart thing to promote Ukraine entering NATO, rather than negotiating Ukraine as a neutral region?

Because Russia would still try to take over Ukraine, by war if necessary and it would put Ukraine in worse position?

It seems to me that the worst case scenario has transpired

The worst case would be Russia taking over Ukraine, murdering whoever opposed their regime, run russification full scale and be emboldened enough to invade Estonia or Latvia (and cause direct NATO-Russia war or collapse of NATO).

has wasted American influence in Ukraine

Do you REALLY think that American influence in Ukraine dropped as result of that?

given we destroyed their pipeline

It is hardly confirmed that USA did this, there are also other credible candidates.

Given that this was their red line since the early 2000s

They probably lied about this.

and then gone on to show why some other thing is the best.

the problem is that they failed to do this

China is not run as Marxism-Leninism in any meaningful way.

England is closer to theocratic dictatorship than China is to Marxism-Leninism.

Not the least considering Poland could have been much better for it, along with all of Europe, if they had aligned themselves with Germany against communism

No, it would not go better for Poland given that Germans genuinely consider Poles as subhumans.

what National Socialists recognized as capitalism in the hands of the international jew.

that particular stupidity solved nothing, was mistaken and resulted in several millions of innocent people being murdered

You pro-slavery, pro-mass-murder and pro-Hitler (ok, that is redundant a bit) apologia is spectacularly stupid and evil.