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What’s naive about it? There are lots of people who don’t have sex before marriage, which is what the pro-life position would actually advocate.
I was astonished when my fiancee's family got indignant and saw it as a red flag that we were waiting until marriage to have sex.
How did that even come up? Seems like an odd topic to discuss over dinner.
For some reason this reminds me of the joke that when your in-laws are asking you when you and their daughter will start trying for a baby, they're effectively asking you when you're going to start creampieing their daughter.
That’s seriously a joke? What a bizarre, pornographic thing to think, let alone say.
Actually, in light of the discussion below, I have a different question to ask you: if you had a daughter, would you ever want her to have sex with anyone? It seems to me that a parent with a healthy relationship with his or her daughter would absolutely want her to have sex with her husband and then to bear children as the fruit of that union. Your recent comments, on the other hand, seem to imply that you believe anything other than perpetual virginity is a shameful thing in a daughter.
Does "trying for a child" have a meaning other than attempting to get pregnant, usually achieved by a man ejeculating into a woman (in slang called a "creampie")? Unless it does, I do not anything worthy of this extreme level of pearl-clutching over a funny rephrase with the exactly same meaning, but with less obfuscation.
Most people have a concept of propriety, and most people understand that words have contextual or connotative meanings beyond the literal, physical act which they denote. "Make love", "have sex", and "fuck" all refer to the same action in a broad sense, but they obviously have very different meanings when you come across them in the wild.
Likewise, "I would like to have a child with your daughter", "I would like to breed your daughter", and "I would like to creampie your daughter" may all indicate that the person would like to have vaginal sex with the daughter in a way that's open to the possibility of conception and pregnancy, but obviously the connotations are very different.
Lewis2 is correct here - 'creampie' specifically is pornographic slang. It's contextually inappropriate because it communicates disrespect. Botond173 made an edgy and offensive joke.
Maybe you like edgy jokes, and if so that's fine for you, but pretending that it's not clear why someone might object is silly.
And the worst one isn't even the last -- "I would like to breed your daughter" comes across as much more disrespectful to me than "I would like to creampie your daughter"; obviously I wouldn't like hearing it in that way, but it sounds more horny than disrespectful. "I would like to breed your daughter" sounds like she's going to be inseminated like an animal. Using "breed" in a human context comes across as wildly inappropriate, while saying 'creampie' in a human context is just horny. (And if you invert it, the pattern follows -- "I would like to breed your mare" sounds like a normal thing for a horse person to say, "I would like to creampie your mare" is followed by a call to the police.)
(And yes, I know "breeding kink" is a real term, but I think it's an insane people describe the natural urge to reproduce as a 'kink' and not, say, the normal outworkings of sexuality. It's like saying you have an 'orgasm kink.' Oh really? Are you demisexual too?)
In the current social reality it isn't insane. When the sexual act does take place, it normally does so not only without the intent to procreate but including the implicit intent to prevent procreation. This is the case even though it's a biological fact that the act of heterosexual coupling is usually more enjoyable for both parties where the normal outworking of sexuality does take place. In other words, yes, it's a kink, practically speaking.
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