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Culture War Roundup for the week of October 31, 2022

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I haven’t seen a Kyrie Irving thread so I will start one.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34942326/nets-suspend-kyrie-irving-least-five-games-pay

Now I already canceled the NBA over the forced blm message but suspending Kyrie just makes me even less interested in watching a game. Personally I’ve played basketball 3-5 times a week for 30 years. I’ve also canceled Nike and refuse to where their shoes.

  • I don’t understand fight antisemitism movement. Jews seem to be doing fine in this country. It’s almost like everyone in blue tribe needs to make themselves a victim because otherwise they have no statue

  • Kyrie a weird guy but it’s not like on the court he’s promoting this stuff. People should be allowed to work and allowed to have their own private opinions. The stuff he promoted is bad but just let a guy do his job.

To me this Kyrie thing is scary because this regime Can target anyone - your no longer allowed to have weird opinions. Isaac Newton had some weird opinion. In the modern world he’s not discovering gravity. The weird people are necessary.

I strongly advise everyone here boycotts woke brands. It’s important that we end this culture and the only way we get back to normal is fighting fire with fire.

Also I guess Musks is having some advertising issues at Twitter because he doesn’t bow down. I strongly advise trying to support businesses that you see ads for on twitter.

I wouldn’t be shocked if blacks are the next group to join the GOP. Lots of weird opinions in that community and basically anyone middle class has some wrong think so it’s clear that culturally their not a fit with Dems.

Nike, NBA, and Disney are dead brands to me. Actually really like Star Wars and here there’s a good new series out but I can’t watch it.

the movie he promoted was pretty standard black israelite nonsense, with made up hitler quotes to boot. these beliefs are more popular than people realize considering pretty much no nba players have spoken out against him for it. kyrie probably could have skated by and have people just chalk this up as another example of his pseudo intellectualism, but he basically doubled down multiple times in interviews and his 'apology' was hilariously half assed. hell, the commissioner of the league is jewish.

the movie he promoted was pretty standard black israelite nonsense, with made up hitler quotes to boot.

That this is probably a pretty mainstream belief in the NBA is probably why they had to punish him. The NBA audience skews highly leftist and nothing would be worse for them retaining their rich, well paying, white liberal core piggybank fans than those people realizing half the league is virulently antisemetic.

Is it that widespread? Sure, there's a lot of black players, but is Black Israelism really catching on that much?

"Catching on" is the wrong framing. It is longstanding. Louis Farrakhan rose to prominence in the 1970s. Ditto Jeremiah Wright. Explicit anti-semitism and black nationalism are mainstream black ideas. If you didn't already know that, it means you are in a pro-black-progressive-media bubble.

Nation of Islam and Black Israelites are two very different groups.

If you mean anti-Semitism in general is common in the black community, that's true, but this particular strain of it (the Black Israelite and NOI stuff) is still pretty fringe.

It's all part of a cycle. Black people blame white people for their oppression. And then one day they 'notice' that a good chunk of the white people in Hollywood, the media, running the big businesses, in academia, are Jews. Whites gentiles are under-represented, probably moreso than African-Americans.

And once they 'notice' that, then they start to wonder if they are oppressed at all. You get the idea that maybe it's just a 'mental prison'. They believe they can free themselves by simply believing they aren't oppressed. And from there they get to thinking that maybe it is the Jews that are the oppressors. This feeds into black nationalism, which feeds into blacks having their own country, which feeds into the idea that hey, maybe Israel is actually a black country. Maybe blacks are the real Jews.

As this process has played out, time and time again, over the past century, it was largely countered or overshadowed by a larger civil rights movement. But the current civil rights movement isn't asking for equality; it's asking for equity. And to get that equity, it's going to have to come from the Jews, at least partly. Otherwise gentile whites are going to be essentially pushed out of society, and that will almost certainly lead to the Holocaust 2.0.

I don't know that Holocaust 2.0 branding will catch on.

I see 'Holocaust Part Deux Again for the First Time' as catchier.

It's a larger tent for those keen on a Holocaust or Holocaust 1.0 denial.