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I think a few things are becoming increasingly clear to certain factions of groyper.
Trump is spending colossal political capital (domestically, with corporate elites, even with his base when it comes to inflation and the markets) on tariffs, which leaves comparatively little room for the huge battles required around illegal immigration. Tariffs are the only (or, more charitably, the central) truly ideological political position Trump holds. On other matters, including immigration, Ukraine, government efficiency and Israel, he is happy to let various donor and supporter-affiliated groups handle matters provided they don’t particularly embarrass themselves. Tariffs are personal (evident even from his tweeting).
As a consequence of the above, it’s extremely unlikely that the 13-15m+ illegal migrants are going to be deported (since it would take a COVID-vaccine level effort, years of legal wrangling, the construction of several million+ inmate detention facilities, a plan to sweep for all illegal migrants etc etc etc). Even if net illegal immigration is therefore slightly negative for a couple of years, after the Biden wave, the overall demographic trajectory of the country (as of 2020 or indeed 2016) is essentially unchanged. Gentile Europeans with no pre-Columbian ancestry (a more accurate descriptor than non-Hispanic white) will likely become a minority in the US in the near future. As the last election showed, this is not necessarily devastating for the GOP, but it obviously is for white ethnats.
Trump will likely be blamed for a major recession in this term, whether that comes as a consequence of his trade policies or any other policies, or AI, or a black swan event, or simply the standard nature of the business cycle. It is tough to bank on the enemy never being in power again; you can either hope to change them (and I think Trump is changing the Democrats, but obviously not as much as would be required to placate the groypers) or plan for the next period in opposition, which is what they appear to be doing.
Open white ethnic nationalism is not a winnable political platform for a Republican presidential candidate. As Bannon noted, you only need a small percentage of black voters and a modest percentage of (yes, increasingly brown) Hispanics to vote for a GOP candidate to win, but you do need some of them.
It is entirely reasonable to say that America was founded as a European settler nation. It was, in fact, founded as an Anglo settler nation, which is why Ben Franklin argued persuasively against German, Mediterranean and Scandinavian “swarthy” immigration. There is a certain irony to descendants of those same Germans and Swedes, Italians and Poles, who now find themselves arguing in favor of that conception of America, only with them included this time. Still, it is their right, even if they sound like the WASPs lamenting their own decline at the start of the 20th century.
Last thought: on some level I see this as about trying to exert pressure on Trump re. immigration, but I don’t think Trump has ever listened much to his base. He listens to people he finds important or impressive or influential or useful. Vance does listen to the online right, but his kids are literally half Indian so it’s hard to see the wignat message converting him.
Not only does explicit white nationalism not expand the GOP base(although less than you think- to many Hispanics whiter society=better society and they expect to assimilate as ‘the good ones’), the current GOP base doesn’t like it that much. The base is by and large at least moderately pro-Israel, either because they believe opposing it carries a curse or because its enemies are our enemies. The base doesn’t have a high opinion of the African American community but thinks we all need to get along with who we’ve got here rather than worry about racial makeup.
And, of course, a lot of this stuff seems to go hand in hand with Fuentes-style actually hating women rather than being patronizing, which makes a big difference to GOP women and married men.
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Guy tweeted that the "normalize Indian-hate" DOGE kid should be reinstated.
As an act of magnanimous charity, as a favor to Musk, and because he dismissed it as trolling.
We joke about white nationalists with Asian girlfriends, but this isn’t a 50 year old TRS fan with the default blue collar Filipina mail order bride, nor is it a Nikki Haley situation where she (essentially) changed her name, converted to Christianity etc. This is a VP who goes home to his (Hindu, not Catholic) Indian wife and kids (his son is literally called Vivek) every day and eats vegetarian Desi food for dinner. Does he think that his wife and kids shouldn’t be in the country? I doubt it.
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Nobody personally remembers the eighteenth century. But plenty of people remember 1960, with its comparatively low crime, affordable housing and prosperous industries, when cities had WASPs, Irish, Italians, Poles and Jews and that was all the "diversity" anyone needed or wanted.
And blacks. And they all hated each other.
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