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Friday Fun Thread for April 11, 2025

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Kurzgesagt had last week a video about population collapse because of low fertility rate:

It has the charming title: "SOUTH KOREA IS OVER". All caps, which is not normal for kurzgesagt titles, so you know DOOM is coming.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Ufmu1WD2TSk

It is a short video with 14 minutes but it explains at breakneck speed the topic succinctly and in depth. The depressing conclusion is that South Korea can't really do anything, the low fertility is an unstoppable freight train and it will hit (end) the country. Even if a wonder happens and the fertility will rise to replacement level next week, the country would still have massive problems in 30 years. And because this wonder is not happening … the country is over

I’m Korean, born and raised in this country, and after watching this video, I just sat in silence for a while. Not because it shocked me, but because it said out loud what so many of us already feel deep inside: that it’s too late. There’s no fixing this anymore.

It is barely comforting that the West (and other countries too) are heading in a similar direction. Maybe accelerationism is the solution here: The faster South Korea is imploding the sooner other countries will wake up and do something.

The depressing conclusion is that South Korea can't really do anything,

That's untrue. Nothing is preventing a dictator from seizing control of the country and implementing necessary measures - such as discriminating in employment against young women, curbs on female education. Once status of younger women is no longer seen as higher than that of younger men, they're far more likely to marry.

Even if a wonder happens and the fertility will rise to replacement level next week, the country would still have massive problems in 30 years.

A lot of this doom rhetoric just assumes things like democracy (olds controlling politics), welfare state (olds sucking up resources) or even high life expectancies (olds living long beyond retirement) will keep up. If even a fraction of the predicted problems hit these countries, world will change way beyond our current comprehension and most of these things likely will stop being problems in the currently predicted ways.

Unfortunately, change usually comes from violent revolt. Olds don't fight. Geriatric welfare is a democratic phenomenon.

SK is primed for revolution. Every man serves in the military. They had a (failed) emergency and subsequent (successful) impeachment last year. The leader before that was ejected in a anti-govt protests. So far, jobless men giving into a 'laying flat' depression rather than violent retaliation. Not sure how long that will last.

South Korea is a fascinating nation. A first world nation where everyone seems miserable. Strong contrast with India, where people live in literal filth, yet seem happy and content. What's the main source of this deep nihilism ?

Strong contrast with India, where people live in literal filth, yet seem happy and content.

Aren't like 60%+ of Indians desirous to emigrate out of their literal filth ?

Yes, but that's because they believe they can have their cake (their Indianess, communities ties) and eat it too (be in a clean & wealthy place).

I don't see why they can't. Nothing about the things valued in Indian culture and community ties is opposed to being in a clean and wealthy place.

Cleanness requires sacrifice.

Essentially, because being clean and wealthy requires a sort of compulsive perfectionism and if Indians generally had that then India would be different.

By contrast, look at Japan. They have a level of perfectionism and conformism that doesn’t necessarily make them happy, but Japan relies on its citizens having those qualities to run.

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